In case you've been living under a rock for the past couple of days, you might not have heard about Pedro Pascal being deep in talks to join the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot for the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Reed Richards. And, while most are expecting Pascal to be Mr. Fantastic and the leader of Marvel's first family, the MCU, which has had its share of new interpretations of established characters, might be setting the stage for a different "version", one that's just as brilliant but not as heroic.

Reed Richards, or Mister Fantastic, has been a mainstay in Marvel Comics as a hero, but there have been instances in the past and other alternate storylines where he's depicted in a more morally ambiguous or even in a villainous light. Most notable among these is the Ultimate Reed Richards, known as The Maker, from the Ultimate Marvel Universe (Earth-1610). In this storyline, after a series of personal tragedies, Reed transforms into a nihilistic and manipulative villain, a stark contrast to his mainstream heroic persona.

Another intriguing example is the Council of Reeds, a group comprising different versions of Reed Richards from across the multiverse. Unlike the Council of Kangs, which are composed mostly of villainous variants of Kang, the Council of Reeds has often had conflicting views of each other, and their decisions can range from morally questionable to completely amoral.

If you thought the Council of Kangs was bad, wait until you see the Council of Reeds, which is basically the same group but full of men considered as the smartest individual in the Marvel universe.