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(wizardofoz18) Member Since: 2005-01-13
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Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Posted: 2007-09-08 10:34 AM PDT | |
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You know, for awhile I was hoping that MTV would stay out of influencing xfire and what kinds of events and ads it would run. This new movie, which has the sole intention of "shocking" people for the sake of shocking is proof of that meddling. If I wanted to be shocked and given a message, I'd read a book on the crisis in Darfur, Sudan and the war that has ceased for now yet is still claiming lives. I'm really not here to complain about a movie I haven't seen. What I am posting about is the fact that xfire is hosting an event for an agenda I cannot tolerate. Uwe Boll says he tolerates religion, that's great, but I don't tolerate his views on them. In the event he states: "I have nothing against religion and tolerate religious beliefs, but religion should be part of our private lives and not dictate our political decisions." I have a problem with this and someone who supports this silly notion. The idea that religion should be private, that people should not give to the poor because they feel it's what God wants them to do, because it is what He came here to do as well, is a foolish notion. That my religious beliefs should not dictate my conscience and moral decision on who I vote for is asking me to knowingly commit a hypocrisy that I simply refuse to do. The notion that religion is a private matter is not one any religion I know of adheres to. Yes it is personal, but also public. Yes it should affect you, but not just you, but how you treat others. I am all for self-censorship. Some things do not need to be said in the way they are said. This is not to say that Uwe Boll might not have some truth in what he is saying about the state of the world, but how he has gone about promoting it by saying that anyone who promotes intelligent design as a good method to teach science is an insult to anyone with over a 100 IQ points is a downright hostile way to get the ball rolling. In promoting this, xfire is promoting an anti-religious agenda that I find completely intolerable. I hope you join me in signing this post, stating you intend not to join the chat or view the movie based on the reasons stated above. Not to mention that two of Bowe's previous movies were on the IMDB Bottom 100. This is not a quality product brought before us and a petition like this will encourage xfire to do a better job of seeking people to support, advertise and partner with. |
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(w32supernova) Member Since: 2006-08-23
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Location: Little Rock
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Posted: 2007-09-08 6:39 PM PDT | |
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don't promote this crap.. seriously its absolutely wrong. --Kop |
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(jcarey1992) Member Since: 2005-04-08
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Location: UP,WA
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Posted: 2007-09-08 6:52 PM PDT | |
Im with wizard! This is not right to be showing and promoting in our gaming community. Whether you think about it or not, there are children here who read this and want to be like people in the movies you promote. <-- Don't let him take over.
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(godjonez) Xfire Forums Moderator Member Since: 2004-12-31
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Location: Area 42 laboratories
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Posted: 2007-09-09 3:24 PM PDT | |
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You got me interested in this movie. Thanks for the recommendation.
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(target0practice) Member Since: 2005-02-20
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Location: North Carolina
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Posted: 2007-09-09 5:12 PM PDT | |
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Postal is a great game, don't try and censor it please.
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(jcarey1992) Member Since: 2005-04-08
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Location: UP,WA
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Posted: 2007-09-09 6:23 PM PDT | |
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It is a great game for the older audience, but not for the younger kids that are playing games alot more these days. I just think making a movie of it is more encouraging kids to think violently. I dont blame movies or games for killings, but i do blame them for making people THINK about killings. I can testify to that myself.
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(brin5tar) Member Since: 2006-01-02
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Posted: 2007-09-09 6:49 PM PDT | |
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On what basis are you making these statements? As far as I am aware, you are not employed by Xfire or MTV, so with all due respect, you do not have working knowledge of how little or how much MTV is involved with Xfire day-to-day activities. Your so-called "proof" isn't proof at all. It is pure speculation based on... Based on what? Uwe Boll is a guest at a live chat on Xfire because of his ties to videogames via cinema, and because we thought that the Xfire gaming community would actually want to talk to Boll about his film adaptations of videogames. Okay...? You're obviously free to go do that. That's fine. You are entitled to your opinions about Uwe Boll, just as Uwe Boll is entitled to his opinions. Uwe Boll is his own person, and the fact that Xfire has him as a guest neither supports nor opposes whatever opinion Mr. Boll has. If you recall, Xfire has hosted Debate Clubs at which there were guests who actively work towards installing legislation that will criminalise selling M-rated games to anyone under 18, which is far stricter that the penalties issued for selling movie tickets to R-rated films to persons under 18. Just because Xfire hosted such a Debate Club does not mean that we support or oppose this politician. Xfire merely served as the staging ground on which different industry experts could discuss and debate the issues, including this person. Yes, that is his opinion. Yes, that is your opinion. Again, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just as Uwe Boll is entitled to his opinion. I find your reasoning rather untenable. Do TV shows promote the agendas of guests that they have on their programs by the simple fact that they host those guests on their shows? No. Lots of shows bring on guests with opposing perspectives. Xfire is serving as the channel through which Uwe Boll can interact with the Xfire community. This is your opportunity to tell him yourself that you find his opinions disagreeable. Again, Xfire neither supports or opposes the views of Uwe Boll. Xfire has agreed to serve as a place to host a chat, at which he will be a guest. Obviously, we want the Xfire community to know about the chat, so we advertise the fact that the chat is taking place. Advertising that a chat is taking place is not the same as stating support or opposition to someone's perspective. _______________ |
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Member Since: 2007-07-15
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Location: Southern California
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Posted: 2007-09-09 7:44 PM PDT | |
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(lordfirefox) Member Since: 2004-03-04
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Location: Xfire.com
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Posted: 2007-09-11 11:44 PM PDT | |
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I'm going to go watch Postal right now in fact. Thanks for immediately invalidating everything you say in this thread. Now I know not to waste my time reading the rest of it. _______________ 0110100001110100011101000111000000111010001011110010111101110111011101110111011100101110011110010110111101110101011101000111010101100010011001010010111001100011011011110110110100101111011101110110000101110100011000110110100000111111011101100011110101 |
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Posted: 2007-09-12 6:07 AM PDT | |
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i think what you said is stupid everybody has his own opinion and you cannot say that it is wrong you make me realy interested in this movie, so I will watch it the game postal is in germany forbidden so i don´t know it |
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Member Since: 2004-12-26
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Location: Mira Loma, CA
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Posted: 2007-09-12 1:29 PM PDT | |
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Personally I'm just outright opposed to everything that is related to Uwe Boll as a principle, fighting off the urge to burn effigies of him or just avoid him at almost all costs. Due to the horrid video game to movie adaptations he is infamously known for (butchering and sodomizing beautifully fond memories of the games). As well as poor directorial vision. IMHO. _______________ http://twitter.com/jiao_tu/ http://graphite-bedlam.blogspot.com/ |
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(darkwave01) Member Since: 2005-02-15
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HA! Posted: 2007-09-12 11:43 PM PDT |
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(anoland) Member Since: 2005-08-23
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Location: Tennessee
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Re: HA! Posted: 2007-09-16 9:22 PM PDT |
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I guess xfire couldn't find anyone better and had to settle for him. I hope that's the reason.... _______________ |
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