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Xfire Debate Club 14th Meeting: The Future of Call of Duty
March 18th, 2009 (Open Debate Room #1 Transcript)
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♥Yellow5 (bonermcnugget): yay
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): hey
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): oi
Blaupunkt <BN> (blaurec): sup
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): yo
♥Yellow5 (bonermcnugget): my pc stuff is here
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Whats up!
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): hi all
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): hi
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Battlefield 1943 will be awesome
Schlogg (xxnicholiixx): woot
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): wazza
nick3125: hi all
Joselito (mbjoselito): hi mates
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): hiya everyone
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): hi
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): hey
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): afternoon everyone
eezstreet (eezstreet): hey guys
osB.Coelho (zebicas): hi
.50cal (takenadvantage07): hey everyone :D
Cerby (cerberussco): hello
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): yo
UTF| Cherub (canudie): So ,amy beets
6K_SH@K@L[$RB] `.´ (mil853enko725): hi
WNxDavott (davott11): hey
sonicman5 (sonicman5): yo
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): cod ftw
Riobux (lostchances): What the hell?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): HOLA!
SAD.Nh| MgmX (magemax): hey
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): welcome to the debate club!
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): COD FTW!
SteveUK (phpj0ck): hello
Extremist (nanderman): heita
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): wow, ive never seen so many hellos
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): lol
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yes!
Riobux (lostchances): I don't remember there being a debate... :/.
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): hi
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): ello
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): WEEEEE COD FTW!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Infinity Ward ftw
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Hey guys
nick3125: this is my first debate
metalmouth2 (metalmouth2): lol forgot today was the 18th
eezstreet (eezstreet): neither have i
SteveUK (phpj0ck): i like how the sign up page for this debate said "which is the better studio, treyarch of IW"
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): my first debate
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): thi all
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): COD WoWs new maps for
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): same my first one to
Broodman (broodman): lets just hope cod6 doesn't flop
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): mine too nick :)
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): INFINITY WARD TEAM FTW
UTF| Cherub (canudie): IW duh lol
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): hi
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): wen they out?
=]FF[=helico549 (helico549): salut
eezstreet (eezstreet): IW > Treyarch
Eggman (eggman010101): infinity ward ftw
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): IW!
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): salut
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Call of Duty: WoW was absymal
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): is this with the COD 4 people or the Cod WoW/other Cod people?
=]FF[=helico549 (helico549): qui est francais
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): tewyarc suck
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): um.. no spamming
nick3125: treyarch is a load of crap iw ftw
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): THIS IS SO AWSOME!
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): there isnt any spamming
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Agreed IW > Treyarch
Schlogg (xxnicholiixx): COD WAW was pointless
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yeah
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Please be polite
osB.Coelho (zebicas): i hate cod 5 xD
osB.Coelho (zebicas): lies
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Where are the special guests
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Agreed once again
Broodman (broodman): WaW had some good points
osB.Coelho (zebicas): but prefere cod 4
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): cod 4 rulez!
nick3125: cant wait til cod 6
.50cal (takenadvantage07): CoD4>Cod5
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Cod5 was an epic fail
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): they dont come in this room
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): cod5 sucks.
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): Cod4 is the best
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): there is no Cod 5
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): INFINITY WARD FTW
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): ok, well, this room will fill up with messagesquick... bet type fsat
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): cod2 and 4 are the best
Paul (paulb39): cod1 is the best
UTF| Cherub (canudie): I hate JD_2020
Broodman (broodman): cod4 > cod5 though
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): cod 6 will be better...well hopefully
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): the main guests are on the main floor
StainedByTears (manicli6): cod4 is theb est
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): CoD WAW was a waste of both gammer's money and that of the producres
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): 2 and 4
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Cod 5 isnt out yet
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): cod 5 = world at war duh
osB.Coelho (zebicas): cod 2 and cod 4 r the best
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): can you guys please not spam ? ???
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 to mess up the numbering
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): how can you rank it
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): 1, 2, 4 pwn
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no
.50cal (takenadvantage07): Anyone else hoping for Modern Warfare 2?
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): its not
eezstreet (eezstreet): no spam guys
StainedByTears (manicli6): xod4 is more intense than any other battle
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): WoW is not cod 5
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): me
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Silence I kill you
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): were not spamming
Broodman (broodman): i want future warfare
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): mkay me no spamz0rz
.50cal (takenadvantage07): can't wait this november!
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): modern warfare 2 yeah ....
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): 2,4,1,uo,5
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): brb
A-Bite (abite11): cod 5 isn't that bad now they've decided to get off there backside and patch it
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): cod5 is Mondercombat 2
SteveUK (phpj0ck): A sci-fi game would not fit COD
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): yea
eezstreet (eezstreet): I wonder what the storyline of Cod6-MW2 will be like
.50cal (takenadvantage07): They need mounts for the snipers in mod2
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yeah
Schlogg (xxnicholiixx): come on where is the ww3 fps
osB.Coelho (zebicas): how to speak in main room?
Broodman (broodman): you never know lol
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): true yeah
fftanker: yes future warfare
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): modern warfare was pretty good
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Can anyone talk in dc the main floor room?
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): like if it was halo cod that would suck
Vitex (mythstunt): what
nick3125: i think they should do ww1 --- trenches
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): call of duty 6, modern warare 2? lol
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): what about cod in the future
M®@z (mraz1989): ok guys let me remind everyone now,we are here to discuss Call of duty future! Please let everyone express theyre opinion ,and dont spam.Thank you all !
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): ppl talking so much i cant even read
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Indeed a sci-fi wouldn't fit the series
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no oneis spamming
Broodman (broodman): people thought modern warfare was stupid
A-Bite (abite11): I'm with steveUK, sci-fi is just rubbish, leave that for mods
.50cal (takenadvantage07): bah future warfare is like ... bf2142 ...
=]FF[=helico549 (helico549): KI EST FRANCAIS
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): ryt calm down ppl
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): halo cod = fail boat, i think it should be more modern warfare
BFM_Knight┌╦╤─Kilgannon (explorerclark): is there prizes?
osB.Coelho (zebicas): no
Vitex (mythstunt): no
BFM_Knight┌╦╤─Kilgannon (explorerclark): boooo
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): wat about future warfare?
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): lol prizes
nick3125: modern warefair
HaXorz` (aircavgarden): lol,
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): no thankfully
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): What should do COD Series do next?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): nope
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WWII again
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Are they running out of options?
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): cod6 gonna be awsome :)
SteveUK (phpj0ck): We know what the COD series is doing next
.50cal (takenadvantage07): Continue with the CoD4 tradition!
Broodman (broodman): future = anything can happen
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Cod Modern Combat 2 is next
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Children Children Children!! A moment of silence!
SteveUK (phpj0ck): MW2
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): The Call of Duty series should be, In my opinion mostly WW2, I wasn't even sure how CoD4 would turn out...
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): I like to think that infinity ward saw what happened when battlefield did a future game so m hoping they stay in mondern times
HPPot'sandPan's (potsnpans): is MW2 going to have co-op?
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): yes
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): it is
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): eh there isn't a CoD5 yet guys!
nick3125: the only good thing which came out of waw was the zombies
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): aaarhg no time to read
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): what?
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): are u kidding?!?
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): Cod5 is alrdy ouyt
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think they sud put more explosions in cod4
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WWII, cept IW makes it, so it's bascilly glitch free
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): wow
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no, its not
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): very true nick
eezstreet (eezstreet): Silence! I kill you!
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): LOL yes it is
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): lawl
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): WoW is very different from 5
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): the zombies were fun
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): just because 5 isnt in the name dosnt mean uit isnt number 5
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): World At War
fftanker: more weapon selection maybe?
Extremist (nanderman): I see the most vocal people prefer IW to Treyarch and COD4 to COD5/WAW?
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): is cod5
ZeRoY (zeroy): hi all, i see the spamming always comes with nick w/ascii? some things dont change :)
M®@z (mraz1989): I think they should add character customization to the game as well as some female characters !
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): what if they make Call of duty in the Future Like Battlefield 2142?
Nelson | CCCP Red Trooper (jffreaper): They should add in transport vehicles and large maps for MW2
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): although i wanted them to all be hitler zombies
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): rofl!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Bf2 > Bf2142
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): CoD isnt smart enough to do that
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Another COD set in WWII by IW would be good, but WWII is becoming a bit overdone. though, i am on a WWII mod team for HL2
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): save that for the PC mods
eezstreet (eezstreet): IWD > Treyarch, COD5 < COD4
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Bf2 ftw
Broodman (broodman): bf2142 sucks, but thats dice and had a stressed timeline
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
SteveUK (phpj0ck): no, they should make a seperate franchise for sci-fi stuff
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): wtf off topic?
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Lol
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): in the next cod no perks please
->ts<-ŦШ₤ẪҜ (tweaked2487): all bf games are for the LOSE
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Cod people need to get Dice to help them
nick3125: they should make futer call of dutys more tacticle
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no!
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yep
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): bf2 is kewl :p
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): BF = win
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): nah ur right it would be stupid to make it in future
A-Bite (abite11): nooooo leave dice out of it
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): 1943 look kewlz0rz
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): it does
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): yes more tactics
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Dice is busy
Broodman (broodman): future cod = IW, time line wouldn't be as stressed
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): yh :(
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): wheres patch 1.5 for Bf2 :o
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): wow
SteveUK (phpj0ck): no perks? no thanks
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): me leave it now
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): if it's too futuristic,then it's NOT warfare
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): i got Cod confused with BF when i joined xD
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): all of them except mainfloor is gettin spammed
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
SteveUK (phpj0ck): there's a reason perks exist, and is a very good design choice in my opinion
UTF| Cherub (canudie): I think the specail guests know what codmw2 is gonna be like
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): it hasnt started yet?
eezstreet (eezstreet): i cant even tell whats goin on
WNxDavott (davott11): main floor id for the guests
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Are the COD series running out of options?
[ChoPo] ooblushy88oo (ooblushy88oo): Hi all
Vitex (mythstunt): MainFloor cant get spam because were muted
UTF| Cherub (canudie): they interviewed with Infinity Ward
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): ok yea cod shouldnt b future :~
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): goot
Broodman (broodman): i do like a few things about cod5
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): good*
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): yeah mw2 cant wait :)
A-Bite (abite11): since they've gone back with cod5, going back further would be nice, don't see many games on previous era's
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): CoD cant stop WWII altogether as the better graphics and so on that come out it would be nice to have a WWII game to turn to for some good old fashion fun
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): CoD should do the Civil War
SteveUK (phpj0ck): perks allow both low-skill and higher-skilled players to gain an advantage
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): waht if there was a realism mode for WaW, were no perks, no hud, like hardcore, and the guns are for your faction only, like in CoD 2
Advice Dog (shawnvander): I want another Call of Duty for the Wii!
vereno: Going back to a WW2 game was a big mistake for the COD franchise. if they were going to continue down that line they should have cmoe out with COD modern warfare after World at war
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): or WW1
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): they do sound like there running short on ideas
nick3125: call ofd duty should stay as modern
Extremist (nanderman): MUD players should be able to keep up with the chats just fine :P
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Is COD2 still stealing all the popularity?
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): ya ww2 = phail
SteveUK (phpj0ck): WWII is awesome
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): World war 2 is awsome
Broodman (broodman): world war 1 would be stupid, too much trench warfare, and open fields
# oscarR (blackghost2012): ww2=the best
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): more modirn wufurr pl0x!
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): they have made 6 games almost...give sum break
Advice Dog (shawnvander): I thought the Call of Duty World at War for the Wii was incredible
eezstreet (eezstreet): Cod5 wasn't made by Infinity Ward. You can't blame them.
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): true
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): CoD series can expand into many more WW2 campaigns. They're not running out of options.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ya, more modern series, make up some new wars, like a ww3!
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I dont really like shooters for wii
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): it wasnt cod5 LOL
Mercenary57 (mercanary57): WW2 is no longer awesome "AnEvilGuy"
[D-A] Easy (daeasy): ww2 wasn't a mistake letting teryache make the dam thing was
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I'm still waiting for a WWII game to depict the St Nazaire raid well
Broodman (broodman): but i did like the extra 5 custom classes :D
UTF| Cherub (canudie): I hate activision only giving Infinity Ward 2 years to make the game
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): In my opinion COD are running out of eras
ZacK (04320kar): gun games for wii are the best
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): so who are the special
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): there are 8 Cod games
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): no
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): And they should do their best to start new ones
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): if u use the wii zapper tho there fun
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): i think cod5 was an end to ww2 tbh
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): cod5 no exist guys!
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): it's just world at war LOL
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): cod is best for x360 and PS3
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): yeah cod5 = world at war
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): yeah
vereno: They should have just satyed with WW2 and then moved into Modern warfare and not switch back and forth
eezstreet (eezstreet): No, there aren't 8 COD games. Theres 5 out and 1 on the way.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): but its best ps3
UTF| Cherub (canudie): I iz s3rious
WNxDavott (davott11): CoD5 is simpler to say
Mercenary57 (mercanary57): Thats one of the best excuses.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Console FPS? are you kidding?
WNxDavott (davott11): and we all know what it is
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): It wuld be cool if CoD continues making awsome games, but not about chewd up topics like WW2 or something... try counter-terrorism or more up to date conflicts
Broodman (broodman): there are many cod games
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): yeah
Extremist (nanderman): I think releasing a new COD game every year is a bad move. Most decent games need at least an 18 month development cycle given that they have existing technologies to build the game with.
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): lawl say cod WaW then lmfao
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): cept if they called it CoD 5, it would attract mostly hardcore CoD fans
eezstreet (eezstreet): WaW = 5
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): COD4 and COD5 are still the best
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): are the guests from Infinity Ward or the other one?
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): cod4 ftw
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): They will stay the best
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Cod 2 is still good
UTF| Cherub (canudie): No
Mercenary57 (mercanary57): There is no COD5!
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): ps3 cod waw and cod4 would be better on ps3 then on pc
UTF| Cherub (canudie): not infinty ward stagg
SteveUK (phpj0ck): but COD is becoming the Madden / FIFA of first person shooters.
UTF| Cherub (canudie): staff*
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): stopping power is an over used perk ..sme with juggernaught...perhaps remvoing both may make it more intressting?
UTF| Cherub (canudie): just interviewers
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): OK...JUST BECAUSE WORLD AT WAR DOSNT HAVE THE WORD 5 IN THE NAME DOSNT MEAN ITS N OT NUMBER FIVE
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): JESUS
Broodman (broodman): but quality is still there :P
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): yes
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): COD 4 is a great achievement for the cod series they should make more of them
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): they are still planning on making a CoD 5
Broodman (broodman): madden, is recycled crap
Eggman (eggman010101): cod4 was the f***ing shit, and then they messed it all up with 5
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Cod4 is best
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): they are
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Yes COD5 has quality
[D-A] Easy (daeasy): CODWAW was to be honest rubbish on pc
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think they sud make cod4 with completely new guns
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): CAN'T WAIT FOR CoD MW2 :3
WNxDavott (davott11): Just an fyi, this link is to the Infinity Wards Community Managers' blog: http://www.fourzerotwo.com/
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Activision should scrap Treyarch
UTF| Cherub (canudie): :O!
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): the main debate hasn't stsarted yet
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): But its not the quality that matetrs its the gameplay
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): I pre ordered mw2 :):)
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): no :(
Clyde (Scrapy) (ixiscrapy): Well i think COD should chill out for awhile on making games and "be happy with what they have" only for a little while till things start getting good and make sure everyone is happy with moving on to another COD.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): IW should have exclusive rights to the series
UTF| Cherub (canudie): lol
nick3125: they should make diff versions of mw
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): ya
Advice Dog (shawnvander): Anyone else buy the Wii edition of Call of Duty 5
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Please kepp subjects related
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): me
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): treyarch are fauk
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{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): lol
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): awsome
SteveUK (phpj0ck): now there's a new COD game every year, like Madden.
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Debateox, i have a question about that, should i message you?
[ChoPo] ooblushy88oo (ooblushy88oo): >:)
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): sweet
UTF| Cherub (canudie): good game
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Youre right ox
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Okay im bored
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): wow
Broodman (broodman): i still tink there should be a CoD MMO, like large changin battlefields
Advice Dog (shawnvander): So who liked Call of Duty World at War for the Wii
eezstreet (eezstreet): ...and noone listens to ox
«CoF-I»Naxcel (scarecrow616): Please keep things more organized
Broodman (broodman): kinda like endwar
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): well, that helped
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): can i go play cod lol
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Zp,g
# oscarR (blackghost2012): go for it
«CoF-I»Naxcel (scarecrow616): What was going on before was rediculous
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Yaaay Hello!!
(SIC)[F]actions.FP583n (fp583n): Yeah... we WAAAYYYY off topic.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): hello
WNxDavott (davott11): watch the main floor and then we can discuss what fggoes on there =]
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): they're starting
eezstreet (eezstreet): Yet, you contributed to it.
metalmouth2 (metalmouth2): it is starting i think xD
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): little late there lol
UTF| Cherub (canudie): ITS STARTING
Advice Dog (shawnvander): They need Call of Duty 4 for the Wii
sonicman5 (sonicman5): its starting!
Weasel (nweasel): @Davott Agreed.
fftanker: maybe have 1 list of perks to pick from.......say 5 at atime
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Yeah
UTF| Cherub (canudie): SILENCE
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): whoo
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Call of Duty would not work on the Wii and doesn't
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Main Floor| - Guest Stars!!
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Quiet
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): okay everyone be quiet its starting!
eezstreet (eezstreet): stfu
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Call of Duty 3 was quite frankly unplayable
nick3125: i g2g ppl bfn
UTF| Cherub (canudie): WHAT!
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): fot the next call of duty i would like iw to focus on realism
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): does he copy and paste
vereno: World at war should have come out before modern warfare
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): ye
SteveUK (phpj0ck): realism =/= fun
nick3125: happy debating
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): when is CoD WaWs new DLC coming out?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): if you put too much realism in a game it removes fun.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): keep it organized with no useless comments
Broodman (broodman): Dream for CoD6 = Modern Warfare, MMO -> large changing battlefields (like endwar and BFH), large battes
Advice Dog (shawnvander): Cheaters remove the fun
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Activision noobs
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): I think it is gonna be the same with cod as with tony hawk, 9 games
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Activision = noobs
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): they need to make things like buildings destroyable
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): shhh listen to main floor
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): hi lol
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Activision is just the publisher, nothing with the game development
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): hi
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): hi
M®@z (mraz1989): MAIN FLOOR !!!
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no one care
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): s
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): no perks just weapons invintory weapons
vereno: Activison should have come to this meeting. It would have been nice to hear there own 2 cents about there decison to release a WW2 game after releasing modern warfare
Broodman (broodman): ^that should be a mode, vanilla cod2 style
SteveUK (phpj0ck): oh great, they got a guy from CAL. pro gamers have an obscured view of good game design, see: Promod
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): so is this Activision or Infinity Ward?
Weasel (nweasel): @vereno I think they didn't want anyone from IW and Trey to fight over which game they think is better. They've had issues with those two studios in the past...
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Please kepp subject related and listen to main floor
UTF| Cherub (canudie): haha
M®@z (mraz1989): Have you considered character customization?!
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Cod5 had fast rankers :(
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): i would love customized characters
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): omg, the chatter room became quiet...
Broodman (broodman): character customization sounds good
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): yeah like camo and stuf like inr6v2 :)
Broodman (broodman): yeah
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): too much space and scripting
eezstreet (eezstreet): hmmm
A-Bite (abite11): chmed the dead admin... Silence, I Kick you
A-Bite (abite11): *Achmed
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): tht is basically turin it into an RPG
vereno: @Weasel. it would have been nice to have someone that was involved in the making of the games at least. even someone under annomity.
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): but i lyk it
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): Cus MOH SUCKED
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): if you rather pay attention to the main floor then minimize this window
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): moh was pretty good tho
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Great question. I don't really know. Realism? I mean... that's a tough question.
Broodman (broodman): CoD = playability, MOH was too arcady, kinda buggy
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): no i have all three spread out
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): i hated how laggy it was
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Because many people played COD MP
UTF| Cherub (canudie): now MOH is lame
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I dont like MOH
Weasel (nweasel): @vereno Oh, trust me, I TOTALLY agree.
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): no
Paul (paulb39): HAHAHa i agrtee about sniper town
StainedByTears (manicli6): but what ever they make people will make buy it because we will be expectin infinity ward to make a great game so even if the game is crap we will stil buy it
eezstreet (eezstreet): MOH is lame yes
Advice Dog (shawnvander): MEdal Of Honor? Only played Riseing Sun for the PS2. Pretty good though
WNxDavott (davott11): never actually played MoH
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): cant hear
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): cod brought better story telling to the party
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): i think it was COD's story line that made it legendary
Paul (paulb39): COD had ADS over moh
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): MoH lost becuase of it's choppy game play and just damn unrealistic Campaign
ZeRoY (zeroy): Did you expect everyone to play moh for 10 years, the answer: evolution
Paul (paulb39): more wepons
Broodman (broodman): MOHAA was gerat though
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): i hated MoH, i think CoD was way better
M®@z (mraz1989): What about female ingame characters?There are woman in war as well .
Clyde (Scrapy) (ixiscrapy): bringin a game COD Vs. MOH????
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): MOH jsut got out dated, new technology made it possible to creat better games and COD was born
Paul (paulb39): ADS really did it tho
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD1 was what IW wanted MOHAA to be, but had too many restrictions set upon them by EA Games.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): gay
Nelson | CCCP Red Trooper (jffreaper): Yeah COD story line destroyed MOH
UTF| Cherub (canudie): They have to start a voice chat
WNxDavott (davott11): always seen the CoD Community as the stunning factor for me
ZeRoY (zeroy): it was a simple followup
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): VOIP?
A-Bite (abite11): you never played moh???? And you call yourself a gamer!!!! First fps i played back on the playstation
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): I think the WW2 should be done with theres way to many issues with WAW
eezstreet (eezstreet): alright, next question
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): anyone?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): cod had a more realistic story and gamplay
??? (leven454): is the future of cod gona be mainly based toward consol like world at war or is there gona be a little more consideration for the pc gamer- like less hipfire run and gun
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): MoH= ONE man destroy the entire Nazi Amry
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I thinkt he mutlti-player aspect is what made CoD do so well, comparitively, so I agree.
metalmouth2 (metalmouth2): wow main florr is going slow
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I really Didn't Like COD until COD 4
Paul (paulb39): i find it funny some people from MOH dev team did CoD
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): hahaha entire nazis
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): CoD= an army smashing the Nazi Army....
Broodman (broodman): the overall feel of CoD is better, gritty, something you care about, MOHAA was a good shooter, nothing better
fftanker: more realistic perks(ability to pick )
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): nah cod4 got me into it
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Heh, I remember when Call of Duty one came out. The Russian levels were amazing, you really felt like you weren't fighitng a one man war like in Medal of honour. I think that's one of the things I like about Cod.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD:UO was awesome
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think moh pacific really killed the series, it was below par for its time. and cod took the lime light
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): COD and MOH are bot mature and good gams, but COD is more fun as a MP game and all. The thing about COD is that it goes to the users-point-of-view and it can identify things from then onwards
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
Paul (paulb39): made by gray matter, sadly merged with treyarch
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): i love the scottish guy in cod 4!!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): True that UO WAS EPIC
Broodman (broodman): what tempest said is correct
WNxDavott (davott11): CoD:Uo acted like both an arcade shooter and a realistic shooter imo
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): tht mission was awsum!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): wow these special guest types to slow
WNxDavott (davott11): a fantastic balance ^
Weasel (nweasel): @Tempest I think I agree with that as well. The feeling that you're really in a war, comparitively, made it more immersive.
eezstreet (eezstreet): MOH never really interested me because it didn't offer anything unique really. Another MOH another day.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yeah, Call of Duty gave you more of a "your actaully in a squad feel"
Broodman (broodman): lol ironsights
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): anyone know when CoD's WaW new DLC is coming out?
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): exactly
SteveUK (phpj0ck): They're on about ironsights, which I love.
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): >.>
Paul (paulb39): who cares?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Soon
vereno: I would be kind of cool if they released a combined game of WW2 action that then took you through all the major world conflicts up to the Iraq war
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): 2morrow presumaly
Paul (paulb39): its 4 maps
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): i care
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Shooting from the hip (ala. CS:S) is lame
Paul (paulb39): for console
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): it has a new zombie
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): 3...1 in is a zombie
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): Scince so many games are poping out every day... why wuld CoD stop production?
Paul (paulb39): PC is :later date"
M®@z (mraz1989): What about female characters in Cod.
†ECO†21Shooter12 (21shooter12): MoH is a really good game dont get me wrong but it isnt that good (multiplayer wise)
<<{MFFjr}>>|.:Hulk²0®:.|™ (shzero0): i can't wait til cod mw 2 comes out
Weasel (nweasel): @vereno But you know they'd want to milk that for as many games as they could to make more money. :P
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): They had Females in CoD 2
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): how many females u know play od?
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): the fact that you felt more of part of an army in cod and all the units/vehicles had names etc really helped immerse you in it
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): lol mraze pickolovac
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): cod*
M®@z (mraz1989): I know some
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): lol
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): yeah you can preorder codmw2 on game website :)
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): At the end of Cod4 I actually cared about the characters, especially Price. In medal of honour there never was anyone to care about.
=82nd=Killswitch (aeagle326): there were only females on the russian front!
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I have memories of playing MOHAA at school on rubbish PCs
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): there werent females on the front lines of WW2
Broodman (broodman): i really hope IW adds something to MW2 that puts it over the top
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I started Liking COD4 ever since I played COD4 Demo on PC
Paul (paulb39): cod became 2 scripted
Paul (paulb39): MOH had choices
Paul (paulb39): for SP
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Yep
M®@z (mraz1989): my girlfriend is playing Cod 4 with me for example !
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): i agree with andy
StainedByTears (manicli6): yha cod4 definity made the cod series the best games
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Andys right
Paul (paulb39): i remmber u could do a mission stealth and not fire at all
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): love how Cod is more like a battlefield than rambo
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Well, haven't seen and reports of women landing in nomradny....
WNxDavott (davott11): I reckon with MW2, they will travel to a new theater of war
SteveUK (phpj0ck): There's nothing wrong with a linear narrative
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Yeah
Paul (paulb39): or go in guns blazing
A-Bite (abite11): 2 gals in my clan
Paul (paulb39): i loved the choice
Weasel (nweasel): I hate to say but I agree, how many women were on the front lines in World War II? :(
Paul (paulb39): in todays world it is
SteveUK (phpj0ck): a lot of games do linear storylines really well
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Yeah COD4 made COD the Best
SteveUK (phpj0ck): see: HL2
WNxDavott (davott11): but thats surely for later on :) Why is CoD better than MoH
Paul (paulb39): no replay value
«CoF-I»Naxcel (scarecrow616): I must say, I have played both games, I cannot say that I disliked MOH, but CoD has opened a whole new world to shooting games. It is realistic, has a good community, and puts you in the action, any way you want to be there.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): well i gotta go smoke,brb
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): MOD is just aim and shoot while COD lets you fell free to try out any methods you feel fit
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
Broodman (broodman): yeah
eezstreet (eezstreet): Shooting from the hip is good, but ADS or similar could be included because you need some sort of zoom. Arguably, the ADS is slow, so shooting from the hip is better in close encounters when you don't know what is coming.
ZeRoY (zeroy): On the last question: YES
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Liek ADS
Paul (paulb39): Do you guys attribute a lot of this (COD's success) to former MOH developers moving over to work on COD?
Paul (paulb39): f**k yes
eezstreet (eezstreet): late question answer i know
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yes
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): yea
StainedByTears (manicli6): no i think cod4 is perfect jus the way it is
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Call of duty only really took off with cod4 because it was different and new compared to old boring ww2 games
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yeah, join or lose
eezstreet (eezstreet): yep
=82nd=Killswitch (aeagle326): without a doubt
WNxDavott (davott11): > Main Floor, I reckon they reached a dead end on MoH and moved on to a fresh start with CoD series
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
ZeRoY (zeroy): COD was the normal evolution of MOH
vereno: @Weasel. true but unfortunatly they may try and carry the frachise to far but dragging it out on so many different games.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD(1) was made by the same team as Allied Assault, argueably the best MOH yet
Weasel (nweasel): @Davott Haha, I noticed that too.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): no,cod4 is excellent,but i would change a few things about it
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): will they make the next COD for the wii?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Well, it's just MoH now
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): like console control
ZeRoY (zeroy): any other MOH was p*ss poor attempts, the staff were gone :)
Weasel (nweasel): @vereno I already think they're stretching themselves thin, sadly.
Broodman (broodman): CoD1 was the new MOHAA
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Has anyone played CoD 4 for the DS?
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): wii doesn't have enough graphics power for a cod
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): god no,cod on wii? laughs
M®@z (mraz1989): what about more realistic physics in Call of duty games
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yea
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): hahahahaha
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): was poor
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I would only Play COD 4 on PS3 or PC
StainedByTears (manicli6): but they sud've hav taken out the glitches it takes the fun out of exploratuion
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): and maybe x360
StainedByTears (manicli6): but never the less cod4 is till a great game though
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): graphics are amazing on cod...wii let that down
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): I havnt seen a new moh game in a while i mean airbourn was alright but since cod4 i think they have given up?
WNxDavott (davott11): dont touch on the DS *ugh*
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): My 6 year old POC computer has more power than the Wii
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): cod is a good balance of graphics and gameplay/storyline
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Wii simply doesn't have enough processing power to handle modern game engines that well
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think cod can still learn some things from moh. Allied assualts multiplayer was fun.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): on ds and wii it has bad graphics
A-Bite (abite11): MoH totally died,. I got pacific assault and it just felt the same as the others, no wonder the next one was hardly noticed
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): are you guys planning on making any new DLC for Cod 4?
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): COD embraces the fact that players are not looking for fancy graphics and nice textures, but compact and great gameplay that can sattisfy hours of boredom
ZeRoY (zeroy): 27, no way
Weasel (nweasel): @debate I really don't like this whole, one game a year idea. Not to say that CoD4 didn't go well, but, it's just kind of frusterating, just like Guitar Hero (which I won't buy anymore).
Broodman (broodman): I'm happy with a CoD every 2 years, IF its IW
Paul (paulb39): Is Call of Duty turnning into the next Madden? A new release each year...how long can they sustain this?
Paul (paulb39): hate that
Paul (paulb39): so mucyh
Paul (paulb39): no suport
Paul (paulb39): just few patches then DLC
ZeRoY (zeroy): much less than 20
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): But my question is this
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): will they be make the next game for all consoles including the Wii
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): I hate games that let you command a squad
eezstreet (eezstreet): IW is a really cool team in my opinion. They do the right thing when it comes to game dev.
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Is the COD series running out of eras>
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Treyarch didn't have much support for glitches
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I said that a bit further up Paul. It's because Activision are milking the series.
WNxDavott (davott11): @Anthony, its the theatres that matter. Going to play in russia is COMPLETELY different to going to play in Africa
.50cal (takenadvantage07): they still don't, left PC users in the dust
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Wonder which company has better customer service/community manager
Weasel (nweasel): @PhantomThief I think that's an obvious yes. :P
eezstreet (eezstreet): They actually test-fired the guns, and inspected them very closely, etc.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): They got IW and Treyarch in a rota
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WWII again, maybe Africa, or Italy
†ECO†21Shooter12 (21shooter12): @debate i dont think CoD can handle every year...
ZeRoY (zeroy): good question
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Well WW2 is getting a bit stale. Which I'm guessing is the main reason Cod4 was a Modern game, and probably why they decided to make a sequal for it. Cod:WaW was nice but even in the pacific, we've seen it all before
Paul (paulb39): i can
†ECO†21Shooter12 (21shooter12): I mean madden will have stats to rely on
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): cod cant handle every year
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): nah people kist wont give a f**k in the end
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): ye
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): {Why are they making one every year?!?!!? that is the dumbest thing ever}}}
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think a yearly release is milking the francise a bit. treyachs releases seem to be under par compared to IW's
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
M®@z (mraz1989): Do you LIKE and SUPPORT new Call of duty EVERY year?
Weasel (nweasel): But how many more "Modern Warfare"s can they make, honestly?
WNxDavott (davott11): the community is going to thin out
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): HELL NO
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): They cant go onwith COD doing the same eras and times.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): No
John - 94th Division (killerkip1): I'd have to say its all about the gameplay content and visual experience
The single player of Call of Duty 5 was integrated, while MOH was mostly interactive cutscenes.
I want to say its all about "graphics quality", but I would be lying, it is about the strength of the storyline, and the amount of dramatic effect the single player makes on the player.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): who here is sick of the WW2 games?!
†ECO†21Shooter12 (21shooter12): CoD is a certain kinda of thing
Broodman (broodman): lol CAL sean, no competition
eezstreet (eezstreet): COD cannot handle every year, especially with a pretty small dev team compared to Madden. Even Madden is going down the tubes, they are running out of new innovation.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): I DONT WANT CALL OF DUTY TO END UP DIENG LIKE MOH!
=82nd=Killswitch (aeagle326): well how many WWII games did they make?
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): And sc-fi kinda sucks for a game with a repuation such as COD
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Not me, since i'm developing a WWII mod
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Yes I do like Every Year there is at least 1 or 2 COD games
=82nd=Killswitch (aeagle326): they can do many more modern games
vereno: @debate. if the COD franchise released one last COD game with in the next couple of years i would be very happy. if they continue releasing 1 game a year the frachise will eventually fold leaving a bitter taste in gamers mouths for years to come
ZeRoY (zeroy): ar ewe talking PC/Console mixed?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Plus the economy is limiting development
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): also will the COD people lean towards Wars of the 21st Centurie or WWI & WWII
SteveUK (phpj0ck): there's never been more than 1 COD game a year.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yeah like vietnam,XD
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): hmm
StainedByTears (manicli6): i mean when cod4 came out everyone wanted to play it and when cod5 came out the ppl who played cod4 instantly bought cod5 ecause cod 4 is agame
ZeRoY (zeroy): because that 2 debates
Weasel (nweasel): @vereno Haha, completely agreed.
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Im sure they can make a new game each year, even if they are basically the old one re-rendered with new scenarios. Personally I dont feel taht one year is enought ime to make a game and so I dont think they are living up to their potential.
Paul (paulb39): COD is already dead IMO- they suport their game less and less
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): every year makes the community for each game thinner, once we have 10 games out there wont be enough ppl in each gaming comunity to sustain the game
eezstreet (eezstreet): No.
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): I think it is going the to be the same as tony hawk games
Paul (paulb39): we get broken games
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): I think Brothers in arms took what Call of duty did, and took it further
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): nooooooooooooo
StainedByTears (manicli6): no
WNxDavott (davott11): Explore Others. keep on exploring
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): oh wait,yer
[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): Please no more WW2 games. Please?
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): But, I'm not a giant gan of that series anymore
Broodman (broodman): i don't think a cod every year would help the franchise
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Brother in Arms was pretty bad
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): Why not try some new areas like world war 1
WNxDavott (davott11): Its the variety and difference between games that matters
Paul (paulb39): sadly the 3rd BIA was a big console port
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think the cod series will be the best unless they rely screw up badly
Paul (paulb39): dumbed it down
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): At first when COD4 came out everyone bought it but Then COD WAW nobody really liked cod waw half and half
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): there have been many ww2 shooters, COD sould focus on modern sereis, there are much wider ranges of stories and ideas there
Extremist (nanderman): The competitive aspect of the COD franchise probably won't die... People will just stick with the best of the games (like COD4 is now).
eezstreet (eezstreet): World War 2 is a well overplayed story. World War 1 anyone? Or...Civil War anyone?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Well, the reason CoD4 took awile is becuase of itegrating the new engine into CoD
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): Do they need to alternate between Modern Warfare and WW2? Stick primarily to one era? Explore others? If you were the creative director, where would you take this series if you had to pump one out each year?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): World War 1 would be boring
WNxDavott (davott11): WaW felt like a laggier version of CoD4 and thats where it fell down for me.
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): modern is good but theres so much more history to be explored
Weasel (nweasel): @debate I really think that they need to move on from World War II games, but, I also think that they need to stop changing the time periods every other game. It's obviously not working...
SteveUK (phpj0ck): *gets out of trench*
Extremist (nanderman): Weren't they using front-loading muskets in the civil war?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): *shot to pieces by MG*
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Hey you guys want a game each year well if anybody rememebrs the first COD2 took about 3 eyars to make. This shows that now the dveloeprs are just 'cutting and pasting' the previous games and just inserting new items
SteveUK (phpj0ck): game over
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): aww man,
Broodman (broodman): WW1 = trench warfare and open field combat, meaning that everyone will hold a rifle
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WWI = Camping, sniping in trenches
M®@z (mraz1989): Vehicle's in Call of duty :Modern warfare 2 YES/NO ?
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Civil War might be interesting but there needs to be some vietnam
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Im begining to prefer the modern warefare games simply because there are SOOO many WWII games out there
Paul (paulb39): agreed twisterfire
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yes, but noot to powerful
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): NO
[ChoPo] ooblushy88oo (ooblushy88oo): no
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): to vechs
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): NO
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): ye
eezstreet (eezstreet): Vietnam indeed
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): vechs in cod5 sucked
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): A game every 3 years would be good enough if there was decent support and some dlc
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): no
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): i was playing ww2 games when i was f**king five and not i'm 21 and there still f**king making them,god get over germany,i dont want to see another kraut falling from a window with a shitty Kar98k
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Which community manager is better Treyeach's or Infinity Ward's?
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): will the Graphics be Better or Worse in your point of View
Extremist (nanderman): *No* vehicles in COD6!
WNxDavott (davott11): Perhaps, its time they released one, and then next year, an expansion for it.
A-Bite (abite11): cod every year?!?!?!? screw that, would never buy it. Do they no there is a recession on? Plus they'd run out of ideas. You need to drag out as long as you can. I mean I know people still buying bhd because people know it back to front, its at that point you need to release a new game... novalogic got it wrong unfortunnetly and the community have decided to stand up and keep bhd alive, even witht he new angels falls coming out, which tbh, is probably gonna be worse than cod4 which is pointless
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Not like CoD WaW tanks, 5 bazzokas? WTF?
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Vietnam would be to contraversal imo
WNxDavott (davott11): and ran it like that
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): It wuld be great that the next Call of Duty doesent get messed up like CoD Modern Warfare with all the versions and promods and stuff... make a game that is realistic and bug free and dont mod it so much
†ECO†21Shooter12 (21shooter12): @debate main floor of course that is the truth but are we gonna keep making war games of something that has happend and nothing will change?
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): vehicles make the online uneven
Broodman (broodman): Vietnam = Forest combat, which is interesting, but how about a MW2 map in the forest?
M®@z (mraz1989): They said vehicle's are coming !
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): only if it will be just like cod uo
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): lol if they made a ww1 they could make it so you got shot for not going over the top to stop camping
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Agree A-Bite
SteveUK (phpj0ck): How would Vietnam be controversial?
Weasel (nweasel): @Tempest But would that be often enough to keep people interested? I mean, I agree, less often would make it more original, but, would the community still be therE?
Extremist (nanderman): I mean vehicles in COD6 would suck.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): are Americans still sensitive about it?
ZeRoY (zeroy): @nabore +10
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Ye COD5 have vechiles but it was kinda expected and kinda ordinary
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): they need to stop campers :@
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): maybe vietnmam
Paul (paulb39): they cant do vehicals for small maps!
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): ye
Paul (paulb39): if they had UO type maps
WNxDavott (davott11): @carme, its a tactic
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): right like i said vietnam
Paul (paulb39): then vehiocals would work
Extremist (nanderman): In terms of competitive play vehicles just don't play well.
M®@z (mraz1989): What about iritating spawn points?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): make war games,but base them on the present tense and not constantly basing them on the past when all were getting is a f**king history lesson
SteveUK (phpj0ck): The problem with vehicles in COD5 is simple.
Broodman (broodman): if i wanted vehicles, i'd play BF2
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): they need HUGE maps
Paul (paulb39): for small maps they dfont
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): THERE WILL BE NO VIETNAM COD BECAUSE AMERICANS LOST THAT WAR
eezstreet (eezstreet): Change helps, a bit. Even minor things like keeping the font can bring back warm memories from the previous game, making the player feel more comfortable when starting the game.
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): i think infinity ward should try a cod based on the vietnam war maybe an idea to explore
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): WILL ANYBODY GET OFFENDED WITH VIETNAMN?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): UO maps, were large and uge.. i loved threm
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD5 was designed for 16 players (xbox/ps3)
Partially Alive Dabbs (dabbster): Cod should make an RTS
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): no
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ok then
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): NO
[QL] Socket1 (socket1): no
Broodman (broodman): no
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): LOL
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): If the DLC was substantial enough, and multiplayer well balanced. Yeah, I think it would
Advice Dog (shawnvander): No Call of Duty Vietnam
SteveUK (phpj0ck): so the maps kinda work with vehicles on those platforms.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ok
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): random spawn points would be good so you can spawn anywhere on the map?
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): No. A RTS would suck.
WNxDavott (davott11): using caps wont help
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): nop think halo wars
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I dont think futuristic is a good idea
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
Advice Dog (shawnvander): No one likes Vietnam games really.
Weasel (nweasel): @Tempest Good point, I'll agree with that. :)
Extremist (nanderman): If they don't want to aim COD6 at the competitive/pro market then they should add vehicles.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yeah
A-Bite (abite11): its been doen before, battlefield ring a bell?? veitnam is basccially ww2
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): well brb
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): YEah I dont really like Vietnam
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): thats cause there werent to many made right
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): i actualy hold shift... not use to pressing caps
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes shoe exactly
Advice Dog (shawnvander): I like World War 2
fftanker: look mw2 is made u cant change it!!!!!!!!!
Advice Dog (shawnvander): And Modern War
Broodman (broodman): Vietnam is a good idea, but its so boring, i think someone should just make a map for CoD4, and thats vietnam
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): is cod6 gonna follow on from cod4?
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): vietnam is okay but what about the iraqi wars and stuff
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): vietnam would be nice, bf vietnam was amazing, mainly because of the radio though
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): could they lean towards that
ZeRoY (zeroy): i dont think its a logical step at all
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): The major problem of COD is that there are too many, shall I say, noobs. This greatly irritates the gameplay of COD MP and puts many pople of the gameplay. I have one advice for you. Don't camp, don't spray, don't swear, play well, a game is swell!
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): nah they cant make a game on a current war
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Battlefield Vietnam was accually fun it just got ruiend bthe Coppers
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): thats politicly incorrect
Broodman (broodman): like one map = Saigon, another map = forest
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD (4) is designed to be extremely accessible
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Agreed Carme
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Korea?
Weasel (nweasel): @PhantomThief Haha, creative, I like it.
Advice Dog (shawnvander): How about this! Make a longer Call of Duty Modern War campaing
WNxDavott (davott11): Future warfare wont work because its not real to the consumer. You cant feel like your in a trench , getting dirty and really falling head over heals and immersing yourself into the game
SteveUK (phpj0ck): quite a casual FPS
Broodman (broodman): Korea = like WW2
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): its similar tbh but jungle warfare would make good game play in my opinion
eezstreet (eezstreet): Artistic problems involving, they need an actual art crew? They need to make their own units, instead of taking ones from real life. In short terms - FAIL.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Would you like martyrdom still in COD?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): small learning curve
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): its good
M®@z (mraz1989): Removing knife YES/NO
Broodman (broodman): no
ZeRoY (zeroy): Evan got it right, no need to go starwars
Phil (jimmycarr): .nop
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): No
Advice Dog (shawnvander): MAtrydom isnt no realistic
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): No
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I'd prefer weapon bashing to the knife.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): No knife
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott Plus, there are so many future war games out there (Killzone 2 an option?), that it wouldn't be original.
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): conflict desert storm was set in iraq first war, i think cod could easily make a fun game out of it
Weasel (nweasel): Then again, what war games ARE original anymore...?
Paul (paulb39): I'd prefer weapon bashing to the knife.
+1000000
M®@z (mraz1989): I hope you are aware your answers are affecting future Call of duty ! !
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Well Cod4 was based on the current situation. Of course they never mentioned any names and changed enough to remove any parallels with current events. That helped the story though, you already felt like you understood the situation to some extent
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): anyting with more URBAN COMBAT
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Advice Dog, lol guy named after a forced meme, nothing in COD is realistic.
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): Desert combat wuld rock... if the maps culd be sandbox style it wuld be awsome...
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): yeah, i agree with the First Gulf War
WNxDavott (davott11): The cold war
LiGeR* (alejocardonaz): what about a southamerican anti terrorist team, against chavez
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): How can you make a current war fun?1
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): i want the choise between knife and bash
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Do you think Chuck Norris is strong
eezstreet (eezstreet): Martyrdom isn't lied anyway. So get rid of it ;)
eezstreet (eezstreet): liked*
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): the idea of future sereis wont be really popular with gamers, unless they can think of some kind of uniqe story and gamplay i dont think it will go far...
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): HAHA CUCK NORRIS
Broodman (broodman): Cold War was just a bunch of Talking man
WNxDavott (davott11): storyline where the cold war went nuclear
ZeRoY (zeroy): Vietnam wont happened
StainedByTears (manicli6): cod both guilf wars in one package
Weasel (nweasel): @TEmpest Agreeed, but how many of them can they make before it's just the same thing?
A-Bite (abite11): noobs are vital to the game unfortunetly so you can't get away from it. Its when the "leet" start using cheap tatics that they get called noobs... its a shooting game, you kill how ever you can
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): The cold war? Korea and Veitnam....
Tipsy3000 (met2002): No cold war, nothing really happened war was in the Cold war
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Chuck Norris vs Arnold Shranegger
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Martrydom is fun for griefing
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): no Korea games
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): a game on the cold war llol
StainedByTears (manicli6): no i think they will make a vietnal
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Please keep related to the subject: What is the Future of the COD series?
Weasel (nweasel): I was going to say, what happened during the cold war...? :P
StainedByTears (manicli6): *vietnam
M®@z (mraz1989): Making a Hard core mod default YES/NO
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): medieval?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol "cold war"? lol
SteveUK (phpj0ck): NO
Broodman (broodman): NO
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Hardcore is awful
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): NO hardcore mod
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): How much wood wuld a woodchuck cchuck, if woodchuck Chuck Norris?
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): woot vietnam ftw
eezstreet (eezstreet): no medieval
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): well not as default
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): They should add something like Forge
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Were you make custom maps
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): NO COLD WAR PLEASE!
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WTF.... anthony
{WINGS}MangaGate (matt402): is it possible that they will have vehicles that yuou can drive in future games
WNxDavott (davott11): pretend that the cold war was tipped over the edge and the world was forced into a war. Its modern, its new, you can use artistc license and its a hot topic, and slightly controversial.... perfect. no?
ZeRoY (zeroy): they arent going to use Al Quaida now are they? it must be fictional
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Mo4fsd6f5465f45sdfv4sd6f4sd56f4d85 that's called the map editor
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Helicopters would be a fun vehicle :)
Broodman (broodman): Cold War game = a bunch of talking
SteveUK (phpj0ck): which comes with the SDK
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Steve i kno
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): there doesnt seem too much competition for cod series atm so seems like they will go on strong for a while
Weasel (nweasel): Another thing though, how many people know about these lesser wars, such as Grenada? Would people buy the game to learn more about the war, or pass it up because they don't know anything about it?
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Medievil cod lol
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): a map editor
Paul (paulb39): activision can keep spiting out a shitty cod every year- people will still buy it- even its broken and they dont suport it- so future? shittier console ports- and shitloads of money- less people actually stand up to they shit they pull
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes their OWN WAR! GOOD IDEAA
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): wasnt cod4 like it
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): 2010 war with russia?
Phil (jimmycarr): it will be un named arab country or un named asian country
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): how about Call of Duty Star Wars eddition lol
Weasel (nweasel): @Paul I hope not, but sadly, I've noticed that.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): no
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): they invented their own stolen nukes story
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol no
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): rofl
SteveUK (phpj0ck): No
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): rofl
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): LOL
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): lol
Broodman (broodman): but wasn't CoD4 their own war?
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): star wars xD
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think if they make a guldwar it'd be the best
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): COD is somewhat running out of ideas, and many people dont respect that for the last 4 years they have done a great job. But now in my opinion they should stop on the franchise and start something new.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): That would be funny but would be stupid if cod had light sabers
UTF| Cherub (canudie): lol
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Yeah cod4 was made up :\\
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
M®@z (mraz1989): Call of duty :Vietnam war YES/NO
Broodman (broodman): no
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Ya Call of Duty 4 was a fictional war/place
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): NO
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): NO
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): No
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): YES
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Heh
WNxDavott (davott11): CoD4 was just basically the war against terrorists to an extent
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): yes
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): yes we were
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): NEVA!
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): NO to vietname war
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): yes
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): maybe
Ryan/Verdict (giggity92): yes!
Weasel (nweasel): @PhantomTheird The thing is, what should they do?
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): It'll be Call of Duty: Future warfare soon enough
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I associate COD4 with reality, and I hope it doesn't go in the same direction as Battlefield and do some weird sci-fi spin-off
??? (leven454): i say avoid future warfair cause it will become to starwars like
Broodman (broodman): like i said, vietnam has 2 settings
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
Broodman (broodman): city, and forest
Broodman (broodman): thats it
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): Conflict Desert Storm: Vietnam
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): Conflict Vietnam
ZeRoY (zeroy): Shellshock nam 2, now here is a dump of a game, dont go near Vietnam is best :)
eezstreet (eezstreet): Instead of releasing a new game each year, they should release massive map packs and add-ons to the original games, in my opinion.
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): as i said vietnam is the way forward for infinity ward jungle warfare etc would be amazing if taken time to bring to fruit
Weasel (nweasel): @debate I wouldn't say that Vietnam is cliched.. I mean, think about ANY war for that matter.
M®@z (mraz1989): spreading napalm instead ground attack
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): what about a cod were you are a member of the sas or something and go to incidents all over the world. I know its kind of the tom clancy thing but cod could pull it off
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Call of Duty 6: Following the story from cod 4 with new guns etc and perks YES/NO
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): vietnam is over done
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): Future Warfare: Let the future suck your cck
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Wow these people don't say lol
M®@z (mraz1989): YES
sonicman5 (sonicman5): yesw
Extremist (nanderman): There are other non-American wars that could translate well to a MW game...
Broodman (broodman): lo jack bauer
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): This a polie server
A-Bite (abite11): 2010 war with russia, done before... they failed but its been done. Frontlines, briliant story, slightly in the future but still belieave able. If IW did something like that it would be great, its the future but still close enough to not be that "out there"
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): yea like the war in Bosnia and Croatia
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): haha jack bauer
WNxDavott (davott11): lol @ Evan, cause a war now then =D
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): tboo
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Only the most polite and posh are chosen to take part in ehre :-)
Broodman (broodman): keifer sutherland = awesome :D
ZeRoY (zeroy): I think IW can extend with same armies
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): No its wring to make a game on a current war :@
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): to privitave
eezstreet (eezstreet): too many time
Weasel (nweasel): I guess the main problem that I see is that more people play the multiplayer anyways, so people are just looking for downloadable stuff for that. Why release a new game every year if people barely play the single player... and it's so short anyways?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): IS ANYONE TIRED OF WW2 SHOOTERS?
Broodman (broodman): me
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes
Extremist (nanderman): During the "War on Communism" era there was a war faught between South Africa and Angola.
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): no
eezstreet (eezstreet): me
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): no more ww2 PLEASE!!!
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): No
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Frontlines... you mean that game that basciclly said we went to Iraq for oil
ZeRoY (zeroy): 1 or 2 more titles
Paul (paulb39): depends how they do it
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): WW2 is the best
eezstreet (eezstreet): im tired of em
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): if there was WW3 tomorow would yu want a game on it NO
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): NO MOR WW@
Paul (paulb39): im waiting for italian weapons
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): No
ZeRoY (zeroy): plenty of stuff to do
Paul (paulb39): like MOH did
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): NO MORE WW2! WE NEED SOMTING NEW!
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Wouldn't surprise me if they ended up basing a story off reource wars.
Paul (paulb39): like?
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): COD has a maximum of 4 years lifespam left
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I think COD4 already did ww3
Paul (paulb39): have any creative ideas
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): italy made weapons?!?!
WNxDavott (davott11): I think a lot of people forget that WW2 can = many many different types of things. Its not stuck into this, attack the germans, win the war type theatre.
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): That much is certain
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): WW1 :P
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): I wouild
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Would a Call of Duty MMO work???
Broodman (broodman): i still think future would be good, they can make up anything they want
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): ww2 has been done twice well and waw was a disaster but ww2 still rocks
Broodman (broodman): YES
SteveUK (phpj0ck): The only problem with using recent wars and depicting them in games is to do with sensitivity surrounding it. You couldn't really make a game about Israel/Palestine, or Iraq for example
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Lol, I farted, I totally just farted
Broodman (broodman): COD MMO
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): cod5 was bad but that was because TREYARCH made it
LiGeR* (alejocardonaz): ISRAEL-SOUTHAMERICA
eezstreet (eezstreet): You can't blame WaW on Infinity Ward, once again.
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): codMMO f**k know
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): How bout a WWIII were you play as the Germans YES/NO?
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I agree, and that was proven with WaW I think.
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): YES
LiGeR* (alejocardonaz): rshould be great
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Would you want Some other Teams?
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): TREYARCH was the reason COd5 Sucked
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): the gonna do it
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): COD jumped from modern back to ww2...how did that happen???
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Like Germans
ZeRoY (zeroy): you wont put tactics in COD
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Or something
fftanker: NO GERMANS
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): `COD5 didnt suck
ZeRoY (zeroy): thats what made the series different!
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): Who the f**k are treyarch anyway?
Paul (paulb39): COD5 was being made be fore cod4....
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Y not?
Paul (paulb39): thats how it happened
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Eh COD5 was oik
ZeRoY (zeroy): who are those guests?
=(e)=touche (touche112): Teyarch SUCKS
Tipsy3000 (met2002): -ok
A-Bite (abite11): You say new, how about a gang land style cod. Take the Call Of Duty to being on the street, right outside your doorstep!
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): WW2 has been done alot. But only in FPS. There's not really a high amount of RTS's (those which are out are generally good) and certainly no rpg's (doesn't really fit granted)
StainedByTears (manicli6): cod5 isn't as gud as cod4 because it wasn't as intense
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Cod5 lied about the flag over the reichstag
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): yes it did
fftanker: OVER DONE
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): yeah
=(e)=touche (touche112): take CoD3 and CoD5
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): WOrst COD EVER MADE
Broodman (broodman): a CoD MMO would work, always changing battlefield, large battles
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): lol COD was the same allies good / hitler = bad they was all stupid
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): whens the Q&A chat gonna b open?
UTF| Cherub (canudie): it was actually 5 russians soldiers rushig the reichstag
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): 3 and 5 were utterly the worst Cod;s ive ever played
=(e)=touche (touche112): technically, it wouldnt work
SteveUK (phpj0ck): yeah but a COD MMO would be a stupid cash cow that i wouldn't pay to play
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): COD 4 was really Intense and you would have fun but COD 5 wasnt really that good
M®@z (mraz1989): Bigger maps YES/NO
=(e)=touche (touche112): bandwidth issues
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Treyarch jsut copied CoD4. Put it in a WWII form and added a few new perks, its teh SAME game as CoD4. IMO Making a CoD4 Mod to WWII owuld hace cost less......
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Ys
!BtFu!Ãøġġÿ♥ (doggytheman): yes
Extremist (nanderman): I think there's lots more stories that can be told around WW2, but innovating the multiplayer game is what will make the next COD game memorable. It's what made COD4 good and it's what made COD5 mediocre by comparison.
Broodman (broodman): id pay to play CoD MMO if it was made by IW
StainedByTears (manicli6): i mean modern guns pwn ww2 guns
Weasel (nweasel): @Tempest DO you think that Activision could DO a WWII RTS though? Or something different, and it still be as widely taken in?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): that's all MMOs are, they're just mass produced tripe which no sole. they're money makers.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): X( ¬
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Bigger maps only if they bring back vehicles
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): hi again
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): suppose they could do a ww2 game where you play as the resistence, with more melee fighting and stuff
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): WWII RTS- leave that you Relic and CoH
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): maybe
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Company of Heroes is a very good WWII RTS, but it wouldn't fit the COD series.
A-Bite (abite11): If CoD made an MMO they wold lost their customer base, its never going to be done unless its alongside another release for the fps community
Paul (paulb39): they will stick to FPS- its what CoD IS- they wouldnt make a RTS/MMO and just stick the CoD name on it
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): to*
SteveUK (phpj0ck): or having a COD RT
ZeRoY (zeroy): Ah ... zombies
SteveUK (phpj0ck): S
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): what if cod multiplayer went more open like battlefield
Paul (paulb39): it wont
ZeRoY (zeroy): 'god love them
HaXorz` (aircavgarden): vietnam ftw lol,
Broodman (broodman): MMO doesn't mean RPG man
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): No actually COD5 was awesome but after the aftermath that COD 4 left the peeps expected soemthing new, but they got Treyarch first games, which was much betetr than COD1 so they deserve some respect
Paul (paulb39): they need small maps
Paul (paulb39): for console
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): zombies is good,but it gets very boring
WNxDavott (davott11): Zombies were the only reason I played WaW
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): mmo/rts would work so long as it didnt have a subscription coz i hate activision i dont like them having my monety?
eezstreet (eezstreet): Left 4 Dead? Yeah, they tried that in CoD5. Didn't do crap.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): THE NEXT COD GAME HAS TO HAVE HAS TO HAVE 2 THINGS, A UNIQUE STORY, UNIQUE GAMEPLAY, BOTH THAT CAN SATISFY HARDCORE AND CASUAL GAMERS
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Should they add Better Connection and get rid of the Connection Issues espically with Wireless? Yes/No
Weasel (nweasel): Yeah, I think the CoD series is stuck in FPS, although some other company could easily do a RTS with it.
Broodman (broodman): CoD MMO doesn't mean CoD RPG
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): left 4 duty lol
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): like shipment sized maps?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Call of Duty- WWII with Battle feild bad company like physics?
ZeRoY (zeroy): They should have left zombies alone
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): omg shipment maps are crazy
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Frogzilla: you mean like COD4?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Ddue the Zombies were awsome!
Tipsy3000 (met2002): -dude
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): exactly
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): dude
Paul (paulb39): its a gimick
Paul (paulb39): the zombies
M®@z (mraz1989): Immersion of studios for ultimate Call of duty experience YES/NO
UTF| Cherub (canudie): cs ftw
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): If they keep coming out with a new game each year, does it make it hard for a competitive community to grow and flourish from it? Is this why Counter-Strike is still going on strong while COD never caught on in the same way?
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): css ftw
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): yes
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): no
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Yes
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Zombie is probaly te only reason CoD W@W still sells
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Mraz: no
Broodman (broodman): NO
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): no
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Shoudl COD Make a WWII themed L4D rip off?
Weasel (nweasel): @denate I think it does, yes, because you continuously take the community from one game to another.
WNxDavott (davott11): Commpetetive AND Clan communities are buggered if you keep releasing games. Some move on, some stay, and eventually they all thin out and you cant get a big community for one game ike CoD:Uo used to be
Paul (paulb39): CS can't be compared to COD. COD has alot of potential but with valve supporting CS so strongly and activision not doing the same for COD it simply can't be compared.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): NO
Paul (paulb39): +1000
eezstreet (eezstreet): Yes. Many people can't afford to go out and buy a bunch of 50$ games. Thus, you see games like Q3, JA and CS:S flourish.
ZeRoY (zeroy): yes, zombies are so cool, one map, hours of fun, not.
UTF| Cherub (canudie): NO
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Infinity Ward know how to make a COD game. Treyarch do not.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): NONONO and NO
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): TNO
Colonel Tempest (coloneltempest): Anyway, I don't really think it's WW2 that's become stale. But more that FPS's in general have
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): cod on the frostbite engine would be nice to see. Imagine blowing the map up with such a nice selection of weaponry lol
Flash (paulrbutcher): what do you mean cod has a strong following
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): They are making a new zombie map...
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): every year sucks
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): NO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Based on Asylum
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): well yer
WNxDavott (davott11): IW know how to make a PC game, IW dont. Their porting was horrid
ZeRoY (zeroy): oh, 2 maps!
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): omg
Paul (paulb39): Nowhere is that better displayed than CoD World at War which didn't even include a record feature.
Weasel (nweasel): @Paul Well, yes, but, in terms of FPS', those two are just kind of big names in the industry.
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Hey give Treayarch some respect! This is was their first game!
Paul (paulb39): so true
StainedByTears (manicli6): no they will hav more than jus 2 maps
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): so gay
recession Aaron (lukker123): US scene isn't competitive regardless, move to EU tbh
Broodman (broodman): NO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): no, Cod 3
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yes!
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD: WaW was horribly optimised on the PC
Broodman (broodman): treyarch made CoD3, and UO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): and CoD 2: BR1
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Yes
SteveUK (phpj0ck): I didn't get >60 FPS on my 4870HD
M®@z (mraz1989): Quality Call of duty title or a lot of them AGREED/DISAGREED
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): WAW is too buggy
ZeRoY (zeroy): first game, you lived in a cave for last 6 years?
Paul (paulb39): treyarch did NOT make uo
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): UO was greymatter, that's why it was good
Paul (paulb39): gray matter did
Broodman (broodman): quality
Weasel (nweasel): @PhantomThief Actually it wasn't, they made a few before.
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): yea but 3 and UO suck
UTF| Cherub (canudie): WAW wood texture is ugly
WNxDavott (davott11): Thank-You Sean. Someone who shares my views
Broodman (broodman): greymatter = treyarch
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): PC COD: WAW wasnt that good but COD 4 was
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Don't camp, don't spray, don't swear, play well, a game is swell!
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): UO pwn/d
A-Bite (abite11): W@W wasn't too bugger, IT WAS A BUG
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): gay
OSS Operative (rtsuberponer): cod6: WWI
Broodman (broodman): no
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): lol
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): dont swear?! hahahaha f*** no
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): lol
Broodman (broodman): I think Treyarch should start their own franchise
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): its a gimmick
A-Bite (abite11): no world war, please god no
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): cod6: dont relece till next year :@
M®@z (mraz1989): Removing perks or reducing them YES/NO
Paul (paulb39): i wish IW joined this dicussion, these guests are giving great answers
SteveUK (phpj0ck): ChimPae being wrong about micro-transactions
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): we need to swear so we can take out our anger on noobs like me,XD
Broodman (broodman): NO
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): I think Activision should never give another contract to Treyarch!
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): NO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Whoa, did they just say Pay money to fix the game?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yes!
Broodman (broodman): perks are what made CoD4
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman But Treyarch is behind Activision, same as IW. I don't think they could do it on their own.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): I KNOW ONE THING...U COD GUYS GOTTA DO SOMTING AMAZING AND COOL THE CATCH THE GAMER'S ATTENTION. SOMTHING NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): come on COD did 4 WWI its time for something new
Weasel (nweasel): THey'd need a Publisher.
WNxDavott (davott11): Perhaps, IW & Activision should work together. IW make the PC version, Treyarch make the Console
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): explain/
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): HALO 3.4
Broodman (broodman): Activision could have 2 shooter franchises
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): yea... take the time to fix everything in CoD:MW2 so you dont need 7 patches
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Anyway gtg peeps
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): Just need new things, like assasination and mapmaking
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I like that idea.
ZeRoY (zeroy): Xfire is PC only, no talk about custom content? Mapping/modding?
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I agree on some of the perks really being annoying. Theres a few niggles in cods multiplayer that really put it down
WNxDavott (davott11): I know it wouldnt really work as a business sense. But it would be nice
SteveUK (phpj0ck): That would just be poting than devott
PнλитøмŦнıәғ (twisterfire): Have fun on the debate
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): HOW ABOUT,WHERE YOU HAVE TO FIND A NUKE,AND GET BLOWN UP IN IRAQ?
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Do you think that Infinity Ward and Treyeach should start working with EA instead of Valve?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): not actually making a game.
Shadownexus (squirtsean): no way no WWI
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): XD
fftanker: come on 19,000 + severs what is stale?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): WWII NO
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): VALVE
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): EA are you joking?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): NO NOT VALVE
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott Depends. How many people play CoD on the PC?
A-Bite (abite11): i'm with broodman, makes the game more customisable to the players gaming stlye and provides alot more variation to each game
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Valve aren't publishers
WNxDavott (davott11): EA runied C&C so no.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): VALVE SUCKS
UTF| Cherub (canudie): No
UTF| Cherub (canudie): They rule
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YES
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): EA ruins everything, so no
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): COD SHOULD LAY OFF WW2 FOR A WHILE AND WORK ON MORE MODERN
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Valve are brilliant with the community support and give out updated for free.
StainedByTears (manicli6): no valve dusn't suck
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): THEY SUCK
Broodman (broodman): i don't like valve (probably because of gabe)
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): yeah EA is better
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): Css come one
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YER
WNxDavott (davott11): @ Weasel, not as many, but the competetive scene and community is bigger
ZeRoY (zeroy): @Nabore: exactly!
StainedByTears (manicli6): valve made some of the best games
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): halflife
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): If EA started helping COD I wonder what It Would be Like?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): how do they suck without being an opinionated biggot, DevilDog
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Crap
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): OKAY FIRST OFF EA ARE MONEY GRABBING BASTARDS THEY BUY OUT ANY COMPANY THAT MIGHT OFFER THEM COMPERTITION LIKE WESTWOOD WHO MADE C&C THEN THEY RUINED IT
Broodman (broodman): no
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman I agree with the mutliple shooter franchises, but, what would Trey make that would be unique enough?
ZeRoY (zeroy): the hell with the support, lets roll the cash
eezstreet (eezstreet): Kutos to Nabore. He touched on what I wanted to say. If they made more expansion packs, more support, more modding communities, more things TO mod, then the game would be more liked.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Cherub: People have to work 91 hours a week at EA for months, it's horrendous
Broodman (broodman): i dunno, a MMOFPS?
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): but I digress.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Stop with Caps
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I bet you're completely right. I'd probably play it on PC more myself...
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): BF2 was EA and it rocked the house
StainedByTears (manicli6): no i think valve is better
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ok no more CAPS
Broodman (broodman): yep
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ok?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): I CANT EVEN PLAY CSS BECAUSE OF VALVE,IT CONSTANTLY CRASHES MY COMPUTER AFTER I PAYED 80 EUROS FOR CSS
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Valve is a good computer
ZeRoY (zeroy): Sean, cod1? nah, really thats too old now
StainedByTears (manicli6): SURE???
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): ok
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): If CoD Became P2P Would anyone pay? I WOULDN'T!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): oops
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): BF2 was f**king amazin
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): LOL YER
A-Bite (abite11): No one heard of APB? its a fps mmo
UTF| Cherub (canudie): True
Broodman (broodman): yeah
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): EA have poor patch support and dont like the hurry to fix problems once they have their money
Broodman (broodman): but APB isn't out
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): No, no P2P, woh came up with that BS
A-Bite (abite11): will be soon
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): COD2 IS FULL OF HACKERS
WNxDavott (davott11): I wanna move back to what I said before, Why dont they just release a new patch about a year after release like UO did for CoD1. Then they can make money from that and give more time to develop the next game ????
StainedByTears (manicli6): can't wait
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): HEY IS ANYONE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE MAIN FLOOR?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): That guy in the main floor saying that paying for updates would work, it wouldn't
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): there needs to be a Europe Channel to break this in half
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): go to sleep
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): yeah
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YER
A-Bite (abite11): all old games are full of hackers
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): You guys are creative directors again for the COD series. It's now your responsibility to make your game "the next Counter Strike" (in terms of a competitive multiplayer game). What does the COD series need to win over the pro/competitive gamers moving forward?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): PC games will not pay for additional content
Paul (paulb39): You guys are creative directors again for the COD series. It's now your responsibility to make your game "the next Counter Strike" (in terms of a competitive multiplayer game). What does the COD series need to win over the pro/competitive gamers moving forward?
A PC ONLY GAME! not a console port
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): make a hack proof game and i dont care what its about
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): 1 game every 2 years sounds a lot better to me with more effort going in to one game would make for better game play i feel
Broodman (broodman): stop the EA hating, they make money because you buy the games, if you don't buy they don't make
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): like i said...THEY NEED SOMTHING NEW AND UNIQUE
SteveUK (phpj0ck): *gamers
ZeRoY (zeroy): have /record on retail release date!!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): I don't get it
Weasel (nweasel): @debate I hate that idea. "The next Counter Strike". It's like saying "Halo Killer" or "WoW Killer". Don't try that.
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): marty was cool
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Woulden't it be better If You got a COD Game on PC you should get an Upgrade you Enter any of your Serial Numbers and then You get a new COD game
Extremist (nanderman): Interetsing comment in the main window that got me thinking... Activision's business model of releasing an updated COD game every year is very similar to the model ArenaNet's model for Guild Wars, which they soon discovered is unsustainable.
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Activision is giving Blizzard tons of time to build their game
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): so you dont pay for a new game
fftanker: NO MARTY!!!
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): No, no new cuonter srike
WNxDavott (davott11): @ Debateox, I would focus on the community. Make their own Competeive patch and really work with the community to support that competetive AND clan scene.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): I WONT PAY FOR ADDITIONAL CONTENT ON PS,I'LL JUST USE SOME ILLEGAL WAY OF DONWLOADING IT LIKE 50,000 OTHER PEOPLE
UTF| Cherub (canudie): and for Cod only 2 years
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): lol @ Evan
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): *PC
M®@z (mraz1989): More realistic physics YES/NO
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YES
Broodman (broodman): Guild Wars was succesful
eezstreet (eezstreet): I disagree Evan. They need a new way to roll. A new system, sort of. Like the Perks for example.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): YES
Broodman (broodman): no
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YES
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): YES
SteveUK (phpj0ck): The physics in COD4 was awful
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): yeah for real NO MORE MARTY
fftanker: YES MRAZ
SteveUK (phpj0ck): death animations and stiff ragdoll
fogofwar1: I agree with CAL....COD1 or 2... upgrade the graphics and add gerat storyline and bam! another classic.
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): What does physics have to do with it?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): not my cup of tea
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): sean makes a good point about companys not liking to revive old games. unfortunatly its all about making money and bringing our favorite games up to date is not in a developers best interest.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): No more marty it would be stupid
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I agree. I like the Clan idea, and website, for something like Killzone 2. Enough stats and support for unique ideas keeps me hooked.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): and annoying'
Broodman (broodman): i like the building where I hide to be there after i die
Paul (paulb39): lmfao physics of cod4- make a barrel move when shot, its not clipped :(
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): YES
M®@z (mraz1989): You are affecting the creating of new Call of duty! Thank you for your answers .
WNxDavott (davott11): Has everyone seen the IW MW2 Twitter?
UTF| Cherub (canudie): =D
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): COD4 PHYSICS WERE GOOD,BUT THEY COULD HAVE USED MORE RESOURCES(BAD) FOR BETTER PERFORMANCE AND BETTER VISUALS
UTF| Cherub (canudie): no
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): =D
fogofwar1: no
Extremist (nanderman): @Broodman: Yes but eventually the GW guys realised that they couldn't release new games all the time, ceased development on GW, and started working on GW2.
WNxDavott (davott11): you can submit ideas for MW2
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Do the PPL in the debate hear us?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): what's with the CAPS LOCK
ZeRoY (zeroy): @Andy, for that they would need to drop the consoles!
StainedByTears (manicli6): no cod will stay ontop for a long time
H2O neB (wysg): "listen to the players way way more" Isn't it what IW is doing with their twitter vote thing. Is it a good sign or just a hype builder? Will they use or ignore the feedback they get?
Broodman (broodman): yeah, but GW2 would rock :D
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): well, one thing is for sure -- CoD must have co-op :P
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): halo1 death animations where they died in the same place lol
WNxDavott (davott11): http://twitter.infinityward.com/
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): CAPS GET ATTENTION!!
Weasel (nweasel): Okay, come on, how could changing something like the ragdoll physics really change the game enough to make it "more fun"?
fogofwar1: yeahh...quit shouting
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Coulden't martyrdom be unlocked at a certain level or would it be stupid completley Yes/No?
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): co-op makes game a lot better
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott Yup, I've seen that.
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Accually what turns alot of people onto COD4 is the fast and clean game play
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): NO
Weasel (nweasel): I like that.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Just stupid
Broodman (broodman): take out martyrdom maybe?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): THEY SHOULD'NT HAVE MARTY
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Yeah take it out
Tipsy3000 (met2002): I agree theres somthing missing in COD that doesnt make it stand up too long compared to other FPS's
SteveUK (phpj0ck): The Twitter voting thing is a bit rubbish. most of the submitted ideas are by morons that don't know the slightest thing about making a good game
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): No leave martydom
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): it's just annoying
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Marty really annoys people
SteveUK (phpj0ck): they think more features makes a good game
fogofwar1: definintely take out marty!!!
ZeRoY (zeroy): perks are gimmicks
Shadownexus (squirtsean): ragdoll physics maske the game more realistic personally
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Why don' they just have ano perk mode, not that hard
WNxDavott (davott11): @ Steve, agreed
Paul (paulb39): The perk system is for pub players on consoles, so yes.
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Fun > Professional looking
Paul (paulb39): so fuking true
{TMM} ツ☠.:Carme:.☠ツ{SA} (carme99): its a f**king game
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think destructable levels would be the best way to improve the multiplayer. Making your own doors in bad company was great fun.
ZeRoY (zeroy): they brought us the mass >16 year old present tonight :)
Weasel (nweasel): @SteveUK Agreed, but, it's another way of using technology to reach out to the community. They have someone who goes through all of those ideas.
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): keep a sort of perk system need the customization
Broodman (broodman): I think CoD6 needs a CoD2 mode (no perks)
fftanker: more perk pick option
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): i agree with mob tbh the makers of the games need alot more input frm the cod gaming community to bring together ideas to move forward with the cod series
Extremist (nanderman): Maybe a license/upgrade fee annually to provide new content (zombie maps, MP maps, etc.) isn't a bad idea. Thoughts?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): why do you think that most of the servers ban it from use,and the same with nade launchers?
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): kenjara, you'd end up with flat land :P
M®@z (mraz1989): Permanent removement of perks YES/NO ,going old school again ?!
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): they shuld make a perk like 2 pistols/uzis
Shadownexus (squirtsean): no, fun = blowing stuff up and killing things
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yes
Broodman (broodman): no
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): how about customizable perks?
fftanker: MORE PERKS AT 1 TIME
eezstreet (eezstreet): Not really. Its the stupid perks that rival professional play. Like Last Stand, Martyrdom, Juggernaut, Frag Grenade x3, etc. Or maybe it's just the abusive manner in which they are used.
fogofwar1: Add some great AI for the single player, make it earsy to change the keyboard settings
WNxDavott (davott11): my suggestions: http://twitter.infinityward.com/user/Davott/
Weasel (nweasel): I can't see them getting rid of Perks anymore, sadly.
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Perks are great, jsut some are stupid/overpowering
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): the perks are fine if done properly
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
A-Bite (abite11): having destructable terrain would be very demanding on the users pc so it would lose alot of customers who can only play on low spec
Broodman (broodman): I think CoD6 needs a better SDK
SteveUK (phpj0ck): That's the only reason I think Twitter is a good idea. You only follow stuff you have an interest in, and it gets you hooked on products they're releasing.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): im guilty of using perks all the time lol
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
StainedByTears (manicli6): no cod6 will be fine
Paul (paulb39): @weasel- true and dsad
Broodman (broodman): like the Source SDK, where almost anything is customizable
Paul (paulb39): sad*
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): your like me!
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): XD
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
StainedByTears (manicli6): infinity ward wont screw up they havn't yet
fogofwar1: DEstructable terrain!!!! Would be sweeeeet!!!!
Weasel (nweasel): @SteveUK Agreed.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD6 needs better scripting instead of just using quake-c which is awful
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
fftanker: BUT WHY NO SILENCER W/ RED DOT?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): true
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): or Unreal series SDK (Unreal Engine)
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): OH DUDES... BRAINWAWE! wuld it be cool if you unlock attachments and are able to put em all on silencer+ red dot + dunno... grim?
Weasel (nweasel): @Paul *nods*
eezstreet (eezstreet): Kudos nabore
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think cod6 needs more weapons
Broodman (broodman): Unreal 3 wouldn't be bad too
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): No 203 GL for Hard Core that is the dumbest ever
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): For Maybe PC they should make Like a Map Editor and something like Sandbox BF2
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): IS COD AND A SCI FI MIX IN THE OPTION?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): TY Anthony
Paul (paulb39): Im still dreaming of a PC only CoD again
fogofwar1: last of all need to have a great storyline!@!!!!!
ZeRoY (zeroy): can you guys lose the CAPS?
Broodman (broodman): Sandbox CoD would be great
fftanker: MULTIPLE WEAPON PERKS SHOULD BE ALLOWED
Weasel (nweasel): But really, didn't perks at least add some sort of more strategy to the game? At least made it a little more unique, in some way...
fogofwar1: yeah quit shouting!!
ZeRoY (zeroy): or can a mod kick the kids?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): To bad i can't mod the Xbox W@W
M®@z (mraz1989): Customisable weapons (from scratch) YES/NO
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): no one will read what i write without the caps :(
WNxDavott (davott11): @MainDebate, most servers have some perks dissalowed now, so, over time, people have got rid of them (MW2)
Broodman (broodman): no
StainedByTears (manicli6): i htink cod6 sud hav like a few more perks like u sud be able to equip red dot sights with silencer
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Paul, keep dreaming. Consoles are so much of a more desireable platform for new games.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): :ike OPeration 7?
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Heh dont pray for a PC only CoD anytime soon
WNxDavott (davott11): well, the modded ones. lol
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): you know,cod4 had all the performance physics wrong for the real weapons,it was in the RK.MOD that they fixed that
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): plus a cool soundtrack
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): :D
H2O neB (wysg): Perk = Fun. Missing is only a way to customize at server creation, which are allowed or not. No mod needed
Extremist (nanderman): I think the COD4 perk and leveling system were well thought-out for the most part.
A-Bite (abite11): the G.Launcher is a valid weapon. Yes its annoying but all it takes is tactics to take them out, simples
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Well, the community for CoD is massive, plain and simple.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): true
Broodman (broodman): I gotta say the CoD5 soundtrack > CoD4 soundtrack
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): russian campaighn soundtrack OWNED!!!
fogofwar1: yah...cool soundtrack is definitely needed!!!
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yep
fftanker: how a bout buying PERKS w/ experience points>>>>>?????????????
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yes
Paul (paulb39): the day they stop releasing mod tools is the day COD dies i think
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): no
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): no
UTF| Cherub (canudie): buying?
Broodman (broodman): no
UTF| Cherub (canudie): This ain't nexon
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): yeah but in Hard core its only used when people cant shoot
Paul (paulb39): the moders have to fix the game usualy
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): I agree with Paul
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): buying? no
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): then you would be a lvl 1 with marty,XD
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Anybody know were to get the W@W soundtrach?
WNxDavott (davott11): Are any games fully supported by the deelopers pertaining to Competetive play?
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): xD Nexon SUXXX
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
UTF| Cherub (canudie): True that
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
UTF| Cherub (canudie): why buy?
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): moddability extends the lifetime of a game a LOT
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
UTF| Cherub (canudie): this ain't a kid rpg
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): dont buy
fogofwar1: less liniear on the single player.....an BIGGER maps!!!
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Nexon isnt good
WNxDavott (davott11): they usually leave it to CB, CAL, ESL and dontbother with it.
eezstreet (eezstreet): The perk system just needs to be balanced, thats all. The Create-A-Class and Perks menu should be disabled via CVAR
ZeRoY (zeroy): Look at Treyarch poor attempt with the squad stuff, useless and unused
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott In what way? Sorry, I don't think I understand completely.
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think the next cod should have classes and different clases have specfic perks to seperate them a bit. I mean classes are needed for vehicles to be present as in waw everyone and their mothers could be packing anti tank weapons
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD should always have excellent mod tools
Paul (paulb39): moddability extends the lifetime of a game a LOT
- and they dont want that- a cod a year remember
Broodman (broodman): yep, modibility increase the life of the game, look at CS 1.6
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
M®@z (mraz1989): Is there still potential in Call of duty YES/NO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Nexon, the ****ers who made stupid combat arms?
Broodman (broodman): yes
SteveUK (phpj0ck): something to actually rival the Source SDK for instance.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YES
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): or Unreal Tournament series
eezstreet (eezstreet): I agree with Broodman
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): im NOT gonna do anything thats gonna involve buying points...
Shadownexus (squirtsean): CA is good]
fftanker: you buy w/ experience points that u earn from gameplay..............
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): me too,thats just like xbox live all over again
WNxDavott (davott11): Outspark, Nexon, etc. are all the same with the same games. blergh
StainedByTears (manicli6): lol
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
Shadownexus (squirtsean): yea
StainedByTears (manicli6): not alot of people play sports games
StainedByTears (manicli6): i mean their not that great
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): i do
Broodman (broodman): CoD has a bunch of potential
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): but thats off topic "the sports thing"
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): IJJI iis reallyy idiotic to make a game like Gunz
StainedByTears (manicli6): most sports games don't hav alot of interaction
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): CA= playing for hours, getin 5 xp, little money to buty guns
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): i had to pay like 20 euro for the lost and the damned mod for gta iv on 360
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Gunz isnt good at all
fogofwar1: sport games are a console only thing!!!
Broodman (broodman): MMOFPS, Future, Modibility, so many options to explore
Extremist (nanderman): I agree that the create-a-class feature needs some cleaning up. Maybe the 5 stock classes need to become modifiable once create-a-class is unlocked?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Operation7, like combat arms, allow you to keep your weapon permenatly and to custimiize the barrel and such
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Gunz was good until ijji took over
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman I agree with those options.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): and hackers
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): sport gamse get very repetitive after about 4 days playing
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Gunz is really stupid
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): ...
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Too many Hackers on it
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think the worst thing about cods multiplayer right now is the spawn points. It would be better if each team on say TDM had a base rarther than it being a big mess
Weasel (nweasel): Do you think we could see CoD go exclusively PC one day?
WNxDavott (davott11): Valve games get constant patching. CoD Games get a patch every few months. Which is better?
/ovvious answer
StainedByTears (manicli6): not enough hackers
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Combat Arms is HORIBAD
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
fftanker: maybe pick ur perks from 1 list ....say 5 at a time.........
Paul (paulb39): valve is fuking amazing at suporting their games
SteveUK (phpj0ck): The kind of strange thing about COD4 is how it rewards dominance. Think kill streak rewards.
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Weasel not any time soon
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): spectater friendly is a good idea
StainedByTears (manicli6): combat arms is crap
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): PLease, i pry CoD never goesfully PC
M®@z (mraz1989): Ability of creating own character YES/NO
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): @Bitmob, it's a common bug with xFire
fogofwar1: yeah...really do some tweaking for the multi platyers to rid the hackers!!!!!!!!!
Broodman (broodman): lol @weasel, no because the PC market is never gonna be as big as the console market
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): no
eezstreet (eezstreet): yes
WNxDavott (davott11): why cant ctivision bring in a system to release more patches more regularly?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): In team games, it should reward team work
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): YES
Paul (paulb39): L4D had 4 maps on release- they basically giving an expansion pack worth of content for free
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): YES
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): More patches
SteveUK (phpj0ck): not being a lone ranger
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): this wuld own: Extra realistic graphics & phisics, newer weapons that are used, MORE WEAPONS AND PERKS, sandbox style maps, HC for some extra realism ( 1 shot 1 kill option) , vehicles, ability to issue commands easyer ( dunno how wuld it help xcept for spoting enemies BF2 style)
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): your gonna have guys that use hack when ever theres a compition game out that people get tired of being owned in
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): think about the scripiting and texture, 3d modeling, and just time
M®@z (mraz1989): KILL replays option to save YES/NO
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): valve has many bugs wrong with it,thats why people stopped using steam and valve all together
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): own character desighn is a good idea, show some gaming personality
Broodman (broodman): L4D needed the SDK at luach
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Really they jsut need to release one game with a lot of patches to customize and keep teh game fresh.
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): They Should give you from now on Free Packs instead of charging people on XBOX live and PSN
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): YES!
ZeRoY (zeroy): @debate: mods/custom maps?
Paul (paulb39): lmfao
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Steam is pretty stable now, we're not in 2004 anymore.
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman Well... I don't know how much I agree with that. You're right, people would much rather get a console, easier to maintain, but, if you get a good gaming PC, you have a LOT of options for games...
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): YES theu dp
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): mraz: I'd say toggleable
Paul (paulb39): console kiddies will alwayas pay for DLC
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): I think it could benefit from a better squad system waw's was poor to say the least
Extremist (nanderman): @AnEvilGuy: COD *was* fully PC until consoles became a viable platform ;-)
Paul (paulb39): thats why they do DLC
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol,my computer is still in 2004 if yah know what i mean
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ooo COD 4!
eezstreet (eezstreet): WTF are you talking about. They don't charge people over PSN. I would know because I have a PS3
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Ugh. Here we go... CoD 4.
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): 7 MINUTES TILL WE'RE ON
.50cal (takenadvantage07): COD4 was mty favorite!
Tipsy3000 (met2002): But Weasel is costs a ton to mantain a high end Gaming PC
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): they do DLC because they can't get mods, I'm guessing
[ChoPo] ooblushy88oo (ooblushy88oo): Cod4 FTW
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): What is your favorite Call of Duty game and why?
H2O neB (wysg): @debate cod4
.50cal (takenadvantage07): COD4 all the way !!
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): COD 4 WAS OBVIOUSLY THE BEST
fogofwar1: need bigger maps for the multi and single player.
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): cod4 all the way
M®@z (mraz1989): Prepare your questions for special guests !
[ChoPo] ooblushy88oo (ooblushy88oo): COD4 FTW!!
Paul (paulb39): uve never played cod1 have u
WNxDavott (davott11): @Mo92891, idc if they take money from unsuspecting suckers on console. PC is where the community spirit shows strong and PC should get it free lol with dedicated fans
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): dw i am
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Game developers aren't losing out on much cash when they give DLC away for free since they make a massive profit from the DLC sales on consoles
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): CoD4 because of modern weps and tactics
Weasel (nweasel): @Tipsy That's true, but, I got one with an 8600 NVidia card in it... I won't need to upgrade this thing for quite some time before it becomes "old".
Broodman (broodman): CoD4= best balance, a story you care about, geat community
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Omg cant anyone just call me Mo853
ZeRoY (zeroy): @borovina, the caps locks key is right beside A on a qwerty keyboard, thanks.
eezstreet (eezstreet): Call of Duty 4. Brought things to the table that Previous Call of Duty games didn't bring.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): CoD4 because it feels more fast-paced
chaosdeamon0 (chaosdeamon0): cod2 close behind cod4
fftanker: cod4 realism
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): my fav is cod4,it is modern,has excellent weapons good storyline but it's getting bad in other areas
A-Bite (abite11): I've only played cod4 and 5 but after my experience with 5 its gonna hve to be 4. 5 Is just 4 with a skin and a few changes, but surpisningly, treyarch manged to improve on a game and make it worse?!?!
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): CoD UO FTW!
Tipsy3000 (met2002): But thats the problem it will be obsolete
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): 8600 Nivida, hah, lucky you, i have a crappy 5200
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
SteveUK (phpj0ck): 1. COD4, 2. COD:UO, 3: COD2
Paul (paulb39): they should of asked whats best COMPETITIVE cod
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): i have a crappy 6200
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): as much as I love ww2 I have to say cod4 is the best. The storyline was great and the multiplayer was great fun too. I think waws problem is that it is basically a cod4 mod
Weasel (nweasel): @Tipsy So will our consoles one day. ;)
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): fftanker: CoD4 isn't really realistic... the hardcore mode is more realistic than the other, but I've seen better when it comes to that
WNxDavott (davott11): Call of Duty: Uniter Offensive: A mic of Arcade and Realism. Amazing guns that work perfectly. Sound balance is superb, vehicles, mix of maps. amazing
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): bigger maps are agood idea and with sd plz move the bombs alot further apart than in cod4 and waw disaster tbh
Ryan/Verdict (giggity92): Call of Duty 4. It added attachments and the fact of hardcore gameplay which i deeply enjoyed. the fact you can die so quick but then again get a stack of kills as well. Also it fealt more realistic to me.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): of course, too much realism can alienate some gamers
Tipsy3000 (met2002): True true but they tend to last several years =)
ZeRoY (zeroy): CODUO, no doubt
Weasel (nweasel): @Tipsy Point! :)
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): I think there needs to be better SLI usage on the next ones
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer 8500 is good :D
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Realism always alienates players
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): Toujane + Thompson = CARNAGEEE
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Big maps are good if theres trandportation to make the game play faster
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Cod 1, Cod UO, Cod FH, CoD 2, BR1, Cod 2, Cod 3, Cod MW, Cod W@W- quite a legacy
Broodman (broodman): yep look at Operation Flashipoint, super realistic, not really fun
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): who here also has 8500?
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): SteveUK: not always, but most of the time, yes
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): yeah for realism see red orchastra all cods are arcade at best
M®@z (mraz1989): Questions are received in 5 minutes !
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): I got an 8800
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Realism often involves taking out fun.
WNxDavott (davott11): i got an 8600 GT
Weasel (nweasel): @DarkMan I agree with that, but, I think CoD has hit that realism front a little hardcore now.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): gtfoh?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): and realism is quite a niche thing
WNxDavott (davott11): runs 4 pretty well
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Red Orchestra is awsome
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott I think that's the exact one I have...
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Mostly people have a 9800 +
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Arma is a niche game, for example
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): shit,i have 8500 gt,:( XD
Paul (paulb39): cod realistic? wtf? cod4 + cod5- it takes 2 shots to head to kill!
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): yea to evan
Weasel (nweasel): Oh wait, never mind, I have a 9600.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): i haev a crappy 5200
fogofwar1: they should BETA the game 8 different ways with different specs and see what the gamers like / dislike about each beta!! then collaborate on which items in the betas were great and implement them into the final version,,,
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): yeah RO is great its really underated
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): ive got a 9800 GTx+
SteveUK (phpj0ck): on COD5, headshots are insta-kill
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Weasel: Yes, that's more realistic :P
SteveUK (phpj0ck): same on COD2
WNxDavott (davott11): CoD5's gun sounds. Sounded like u were playing paintball. Not ripping germans faces off like it should do
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): 9600?....sure
Weasel (nweasel): @fogofwar But who says that they don't already?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): XD
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): RO= awsome
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): pmpl=piss my pants laughing
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): i agree with andy on that one on the "feel" answer
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): XD
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): BFG 9800 GTX for sale $80 plus ship
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): yea
Extremist (nanderman): I also enjoyed COD4 most. I'm not a fan of WW2 shooters in general. The leveling and perk system brought an old concept to the table in a different and entertaining way. COD4 is the only game to come out in recent years to rival CounterStrike as tactical team shooter of choice for comps.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): I'm saying: When in doubt, make it an option :)
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): I say*
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Tommy= Best WWII Machine gun???
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): I have a 6200 It can run the COD 4 Demo good and COD WAW Beta but the real games will kill my comp
WNxDavott (davott11): @AnevilGuy. Only in UO. 5 RO was really bad since they just didnt work with the sights
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): for the rifle only player for me cod 2 all the way it still rocks today as a rifle only gametbh
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): Tommy best ww2 SUB machinegun :D
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yes but in ireland,that is 200 euro with our gay recession goin on for the next five years
fftanker: TANK WARFARE!!!!!!!!!!!
StainedByTears (manicli6): all the cod games will be able to run on a basic computer
Broodman (broodman): @ weasel, come to think of it, Maybe a CoD MMOFPS would be a PC exclusive
WNxDavott (davott11): @Amoz, CoD2 copied UO =D
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): what?!
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): It cant run on mine
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lo
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): NO SHOE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman Chances are, it would have to be, that would be the best way to maintain it at least, you know?
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): What was your most favorite single moment in any COD game? Single player, multiplayer, opening the box, whatever.
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): i loved deagle
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): hm, hard to say...
Broodman (broodman): Multiplayer
Weasel (nweasel): @debate THe box... it's pretty... and shiny...
M®@z (mraz1989): win ,thats all
Weasel (nweasel): :P
WNxDavott (davott11): favourite moment = finishing the CoD4 SP. I felt like a god xD
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): omaha
God >> Ryan (ryanisalive): loved messing around with it
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Killing Zaheaving ,then hacking and using an RPG
~borovina~ â„¢ (grandpa666): in cod5 opening the box, in cod4 playing
.50cal (takenadvantage07): shooting off the dudes arm in cod4
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Just having the box is the best part XD
fogofwar1: the aiming system and graphic and realism
Broodman (broodman): The intense matches, the awesome kill streak, the 5+ airstreike kills
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): when i decided to tube the ground and killed five other players at the same time, pure noobish
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): CoD5- then ending, when i ended
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): have to say the enemy at the gates level, cant remember what cod it was
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): Knifing every thing that move running through a whole team
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): it*
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD4: the nuke going off
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): nice
M®@z (mraz1989): very nice
Paul (paulb39): COD1 credits video
.50cal (takenadvantage07): the nuke going off actually made me shiver
eezstreet (eezstreet): Wet Work single player mission. Had the coolest music, perfect entry, sense of isolation all the way through, and brownie points for being mentioned all the way through (See: The news broadcast at the end f the last mission)
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Kenjara: COD1
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): or how about suicide bombing with a nade
Ghillie (headsh00ter583): The sniper level
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Raping with OP dogs
Ryan/Verdict (giggity92): First time hitting level 55 on CoD4 multiplayer
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): lol
fftanker: c-130 gunship
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Kenjara: The first soviet mission
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): or getting to to the max level using only the knife on cod 5
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): nuke did make me shiver too
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD2: in one of the early Russian missions, where you set charges on this nazi building and blowing it up
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): C-130, yeah... there needs to be more of that
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): me too
SteveUK (phpj0ck): looked awesome in 2005
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): I loved the C-130 mission
Shadownexus (squirtsean): laying down, watching a guy run over the top of me, thn knifing him in the back
fogofwar1: also like the replay value!!!
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): there should be a whole game around it :P
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman Well, I take that back. While an MMOFPS PROBABLY would be easier to maintain on the PC, there are a few console MMOs coming out (DC Universe anyone?), and also MAG (Massive Action Game) for the PlayStation 3 is going to 256 multiplayer at the same time. That's close enough, right? So maybe it is possible on a console.
Broodman (broodman): yeah MAG
Weasel (nweasel): :)
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): no i dont mean from waw its either cod or the expansion where you cross in the boat
A-Bite (abite11): favourite oart of the game is the single player.. Every multiplayer fps is the same basic scenario.. Shoot... Kill... then 1 of things happen, moan or nothing and get on with the game. Thankfully the computer doesn't moan at you if you get a "cheap" kill
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): i agrree cod1 revamp the old game give it a makeover and lets get it on lol
StainedByTears (manicli6): they sud make cod global
StainedByTears (manicli6): like all the things combined
SteveUK (phpj0ck): you could probably make a high-res texture pack for COD1
Weasel (nweasel): @AmoZ Yes, but, how many times can a company revamp an old game before it just becomes the same game? :/
Extremist (nanderman): COD4's single player had such good moments it's difficult to rank them. The intro (doesn't exactly count as an in-game moment, though), the Spectre mission, the nuke, the end...
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): new maps for cod1 would rock tbh
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Make them
[DaS]AmoZ (stokecity38): and a revamp
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Radaint isn't hard to use
Weasel (nweasel): Are they talking about a knife fight in the main room...? :P
WNxDavott (davott11): Radiant is hard to use
SteveUK (phpj0ck): and Hammer is simple
Tipsy3000 (met2002): I believe they are XD
..::Mo853425ru37::.. (mo853425ru37): Have to go now people going to eat good bye!
WNxDavott (davott11): its not simple how to use it all with all the problems. I reckon they should make one thats really simple and makes maps like TF2/DoD maps
Weasel (nweasel): @Tipsy Haha, okay, so I didn't see that wrong. I mean, that could work as a new game type (I keep thinking of all the varried Halo game types when I think of this type of thing), but, it's still the same game.
ZeRoY (zeroy): Thanks Nabore, agreed
Weasel (nweasel): @debate IW.
WNxDavott (davott11): IW can port to PC.
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott Easily, yes.
WNxDavott (davott11): Thats where Treyarch failed
Ghillie (headsh00ter583):
first time
WNxDavott (davott11): so many bugs, glicthes, missing features (expecially /record) and really dented the PC community
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Nazi Zombies - Different, but nothing game changing.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Nazi zombies was the only redeeming feature of COD5
Cerby (cerberussco): treyarch should stick to consoles
Extremist (nanderman): Yeah and it got old very fast :-(
SteveUK (phpj0ck): and it wasn't particularly fun
Weasel (nweasel): Mm-hm.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): L4CoD =)
Weasel (nweasel): @DarkMan Haha, I thought that too.
ZeRoY (zeroy): do guys in the question room realize they arent tlaking to devs?
ZeRoY (zeroy): lol
WNxDavott (davott11): gosh knows
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): I doubt it
WNxDavott (davott11): its just nice to have this room feel like a proper debate
Broodman (broodman): lol drop treyarch
ZeRoY (zeroy): they are asking for stuff for next cod? wtf?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Capt PRice deid twice, so no
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): left 4 dead really overshadows cods aombie mode
Broodman (broodman): AHAHAH loaded question
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Ew, ugly question. I wouldn't say DROP Trey, but...
WNxDavott (davott11): I would drop Treyarch. Sounds harsh, but if they made it a 2 years cycle with IW, the games would be so much better
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): wow
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): that guy never heard of Cod 3
WNxDavott (davott11): perhaps merge the 2 companies would weid results?
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott What about a merger, Trey and IW? They both have good enough experience...
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): well...
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): was COD3 ever made for PC
Weasel (nweasel): ROFL, we were thinking the same thing.
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Sounds like doom if you merged them
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): no
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Perhaps Treyarch and IW should each make completely unrelated games (under different titles)
StainedByTears (manicli6): all the cod games were made for pc
WNxDavott (davott11): hehe
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): cept for FH, BR1 and 3
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): would avoid the confusion of every 2nd CoD being different
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): I didnt thinks so I had it for 360
StainedByTears (manicli6): nahh the government wud probably rate them mature
Cerby (cerberussco): do you guys think treyarch have tainted the cod series? i mean look at cod3 - consoles and now cod5
Broodman (broodman): Question: What does the panel think of a CoD MMOFPS game like an FPS version of EndWar, or like MAG, where the battlefields change, and the large battles?
WNxDavott (davott11): IW = Fantastic MP and Community and PC
Treyarch= Fantastci Console Gamers.
WNxDavott (davott11): Put them together and ban you have an amazing game
Weasel (nweasel): @debate A maps question? Yuck. They're all fun, in their own way... usually.
Paul (paulb39): shipment 2 lol
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott My thoughts exactly.
SteveUK (phpj0ck): As long as the game designer for COD:WaW isn't allowed to work on it
StainedByTears (manicli6): nahh i dont htink so
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): well, not really seeing much about CoD2 future
ZeRoY (zeroy): can you say Carentan?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Carentan was awsome
Broodman (broodman): yeah carentan
ZeRoY (zeroy): still is
Paul (paulb39): carentan is awsome
=WFC=Gen.Ú©up∑ÑFly[CoD] (sargentfly): Carentan rocks
SteveUK (phpj0ck): best map for scrims
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Still play it
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Aww dont put the guy out of work SteveUk
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): MMOFPS i donttinhk would work well with COD cause of all the kaos and blockers
SteveUK (phpj0ck): though not on COD4 for some reason
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Tipsy3000, well he should take some pointers from COD4's lead designer
Weasel (nweasel): @Ace Well, they're have to rework the game to make it into a MMOFPS, of course, but... it's POSSIBLE.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): there is a World War II Online
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): or whatever-is-it-called
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): What about mosocw in Cod 2, two building across with a sniper war
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Hmmm, 2nd try is always the charm
Weasel (nweasel): Then again, I think of Tabula Rasa... and that kind of irks me.
Broodman (broodman): but WWII online sucked
WNxDavott (davott11): Carentan was great because there were 3 main ways through the map and was perfectly seperated so that you needed tactics to get through. Mid house was great
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): never played, just heard
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): i think the more people the more lag the more nubs camping
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): pwn with the 42 in the window
SteveUK (phpj0ck): i kinda gave up on getting an answer from tht dude who went on about paying for updates
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): to much going on
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): ya
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Ack. Rough questions.
Broodman (broodman): no
Weasel (nweasel): You can't please everyone, let's put it that way.
Broodman (broodman): hardcore shouldn't be the only mode
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): paying for updates, stupid idea, campatability erros
Extremist (nanderman): What is it the pro's have against the perk system exactly?
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Pfft I would never pay for updates
SteveUK (phpj0ck): yeah i was asking him why on earth he thought it was a good idea
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): NO both JC and Stock have the ups and downs
Weasel (nweasel): @Extremist It's not "hardcore" enough for them, I assume.
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): HC*
Tipsy3000 (met2002): If I was going to pay for updates I might as well pay a monthly fee
Extremist (nanderman): So we add a little bit of strategy to a tactical game and people foam at the mouth?
Weasel (nweasel): A PC reference. :)
StainedByTears (manicli6): yha u mite aswell
`PrimeTime #Pandemic (nightmaretd): @Extremist It changes the dynamics of the game to much from player to player.
Broodman (broodman): @anothoney, totally right, there should be an option to turn off the perks
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yes
Weasel (nweasel): @Extremist Haha. No no, I agree, but, I'm just saying, I'll bet that's their issue.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Realism
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD2 had cvars to limit stuff
SteveUK (phpj0ck): COD4 didn't
SteveUK (phpj0ck): which was a shame
Weasel (nweasel): @Broodman I'm shocked they haven't had that feature yet.
Broodman (broodman): yeah cvars
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): when theres a perk system its not about all skill it add that factor in try to make everything even and then see who has the skills and the teamwork
Broodman (broodman): they need to implement cvars
WNxDavott (davott11): Where free games are best, are with clan-only servers where the clan goes on and fights with other clans to earn points. That system in CoD4 here your clan can be ranked etc.?
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): They ignored my Compatbility error question
Broodman (broodman): like what AMX did to CS
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): AMX?
Broodman (broodman): its a server side mod
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): oh
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Some of use sohuld get together in a chat room after the debate
recession Aaron (lukker123): If you could choose, which competitve scene would you play with NA or EU?
WNxDavott (davott11): Promod or DAMN mod?
Broodman (broodman): it changed a bunch of things, and opened the door for mods like Gungame and CSDM
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Promod, is that even a question
Weasel (nweasel): @WNxDavott See, I like Killzone 2's approach to Clans and such (not to get off topic). They have their website, which has tons of features, and they have clan matches where they can wager "Valor" and such, so it keeps an idea of rank involved and such.
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): I think bot Promod and Damnmod need some work
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Aaron you play on your side of the world theres no real diffrerence
WNxDavott (davott11): @Weasel, exactly
Weasel (nweasel): :)
Broodman (broodman): there needs to be a PR community guy
Broodman (broodman): for CoD
WNxDavott (davott11): that question seems a bit futile
Broodman (broodman): somebody who cares
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): broodman: there is
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): for both studious
Extremist (nanderman): Seriously? L4D as a competitive game? I can't agree with the guy from Destructoid.
ZeRoY (zeroy): lovely, not a peep on modding
ZeRoY (zeroy): great
Broodman (broodman): the guy isn't the greatest
Weasel (nweasel): @debate Who else would we want to make a CoD game...?
Paul (paulb39): im surprised
ZeRoY (zeroy): im not
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Well it's almost over
Broodman (broodman): look at CnC
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): Extremist: Versus is competitively cooperative :)
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): then if he's doing something wrong, he might want to know
Paul (paulb39): moddings pretty important
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): provided you can let him know constructively
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Never knew haha was a developer
Weasel (nweasel): Haha @debateox.
ZeRoY (zeroy): i havent even seen the word
Broodman (broodman): I forgot the CnC guy's name
SteveUK (phpj0ck): These events would be better if the numbers were more restricted and the speakers were in the same room.
Broodman (broodman): but i like him :P
ZeRoY (zeroy): most of the guest obviously are tf2/cs guys
<KCD> Kenjara (kenjara): Dice or valve may make good cod developers
SteveUK (phpj0ck): it feels a bit disconnected.
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Chuck Norris would be a good developer to make a cod game
WNxDavott (davott11): why not have an event with just Two-handed Sword members.
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Really? I didnt read their descriptions
WNxDavott (davott11): not that I am one. lol
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): lol
Broodman (broodman): or IW should just release a mod tools, and you don't need PR guy
SteveUK (phpj0ck): they'll probably pick those members based on the questions
Weasel (nweasel): @WNx Sometimes I agree with that, but, that's off topic. ;)
SteveUK (phpj0ck): not actually debating skill
Extremist (nanderman): @DarkMan: I realise, but the context was as a pro competitive game, I think.
WNxDavott (davott11): the manuscript would be quite interesting though
UTF| Cherub (canudie): BOO!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): IT ENDED
Weasel (nweasel): Wow, rough end.
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): over!
Weasel (nweasel): But still, was interesting.
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): THANKS TO U
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): yea
UTF| Cherub (canudie): ollollo
Weasel (nweasel): :)
[PC Gamer] Evan (elahti): eject eject
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Thanks
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Oie
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): i got the last question in
eezstreet (eezstreet): so, whos gonna be invited into the debate club clan?
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Well that was fun
WNxDavott (davott11): that was fun =D thanks debateox and the guests
M®@z (mraz1989): they said it will last 2 hours ????
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): no only 1 hour
StainedByTears (manicli6): no 1 hour
Weasel (nweasel): Please feel free (to anyone) to add me if yo so wish. :)
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): please be two hours!
Weasel (nweasel): *you
Broodman (broodman): lol very interesting debate
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): haha yea
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): THANKS SPECIAL GUESTS!
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Don't get A.I.D.S
Extremist (nanderman): Indeed :-)
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): great debate...
=|DFK|=ͩϵ ͣͩ420/ÅWÆǻɢȨ (prokgamer14): but didnt answer questions :S
StainedByTears (manicli6): i know
Pandemic - Nabore (nabore): take care fellas, good questions
M®@z (mraz1989): this was intense !
[PC Gamer] Evan (elahti): Thanks guys, great questions.
Broodman (broodman): yep, i bit too much beating around the bush
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Nice
eezstreet (eezstreet): good debate guys. but lets try to cut off some of the excess spam, ok?
M®@z (mraz1989): thank you too guys !
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Yeah
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Thats was an epic converation
Broodman (broodman): the questions
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): thank U ALL!
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): I still say Vietnam
Broodman (broodman): lol
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Nah
UTF| Cherub (canudie): Modern!
Weasel (nweasel): o7 See you Space Cowboy.
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): nope
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): well morder also but
Broodman (broodman): like i said vietnam only has two settings, forest and city
UTF| Cherub (canudie): well gonna go so bye bye
Extremist (nanderman): COD: Bush War ;-D
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): What
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): jungle
Broodman (broodman): why not make 2 maps for CoD6 and call it a day?
SteveUK (phpj0ck): Modern won't really get that stale as it isn't repeating the SAME OLD STORY
WNxDavott (davott11): by the end, I think those who just came to impress had left and we were left with those who actually wanted to debate
StainedByTears (manicli6): i think so
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
WNxDavott (davott11): hardy and ascii text in sight =D
StainedByTears (manicli6): those who just spam
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): WHO HERE ACTUALLY DEBATED?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): me
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Me
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): COD 4 is cities and forest
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yer
SteveUK (phpj0ck): me
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): XD
eezstreet (eezstreet): Me.
:[SB]:DarkMan (darkuranium): bye
WNxDavott (davott11): ofc xD
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): WHO HERE SCREWED OFF?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol not me
Broodman (broodman): yeah, but larger
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): no more perks
fogofwar1: Was in the question room...back now
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): Still didn't expect this man lol
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): no more perks
Broodman (broodman): i mean creek is the largest map
M®@z (mraz1989): they reakky should look into deep customization if nothing else... =(
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): no perks
Broodman (broodman): and thats too small
[F0G]Gen.CuriousGeorge (curiousgeorge94): bigger maps plz
M®@z (mraz1989): ll*
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): not me.............................
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy):
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy):
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): yeah,they should make bigger maps
.:Lgd:.G.I. Ace (giace3): do you know how big Vietnam is
M®@z (mraz1989): thats it ppl
M®@z (mraz1989): thank you all
M®@z (mraz1989): good bye
eezstreet (eezstreet): bye guys
SteveUK (phpj0ck): if you think that the game shouldn't have perks gb2/promod
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): BYE ALL!
Broodman (broodman): lol i wanna see Karkand for CoD6
Broodman (broodman): would be interesting
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): HEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY HOOOOOOOOOOOO
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
WNxDavott (davott11): anyone have an idea what the next debate could be about?
Tipsy3000 (met2002): Haha Andy XD
AnEvilGuy (anevilguy): lol wat?
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): HEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): god night all and may you get 200+head shots tommorow! XD
[RvsB]Frogzilla{CL} (frogzilla2): lol
fogofwar1: about me ironing my shirt
DevilDog (sgtjcoleman): *good
sonicman5 (sonicman5): HEEEEEEEYYYY, HOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Xfire Debate Club 14th Meeting: The Future of Call of Duty
March 18th, 2009 (Open Debate Room #2 Transcript)
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): SUP YALLLL.
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): hey all
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): Hello
ANB ='.'= Ħaωĸεÿε (hyugaleader): kool.... debate
[Spec]Welshman (welshman666): hi
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): hi
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): hey guys
[H]LiL-R (u72576): hello
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): Woohoooo.
ziad218 (ziad218): hello
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): has anyone else been here before?
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): hey whats up everybody
Icelandic_Kiddi© (kiddi1000): hie!!!!
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): Hello all
|Ks|Basher (cod3mast): hellos
[lol]2ndLt.Battybat(CC) (battybat): hi
Jay>> (amazingjay): hoi goiys
Pk_Myth0 (aus10kid): hey
TheLittleB3ast19 (thelittleb3ast19): hi
N!GhT© (nightstalker3400): hello
mstrskullbustr: hello
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): Hello!
mσÃJσ™ (modjo99): huhu ^^
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): Hello everyone
GamerOfFreedom (heromilkshake): hi
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): u guys all from USA?
¿4Ñ«--Sdv[K]³ (sedvick36): evening ladies and gentelmen
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): wow a lotta ppl
[TFO]Ranger Chad (rangerchad): hi
~{B4U}~Raddish (killerraddish): hi
Kmillz0 (kmillz0): hi everyone
Hawk (thefev): Let's skip formalities
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): hey guys
[TFO]Ranger Chad (rangerchad): ...
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): sup guys
sic`m1lkman (whiskeytits): butter or margerine... discuss
Jay>> (amazingjay): omg there is loads
mstrskullbustr: usa
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): hey peeps. hope this'll be a productive night
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): USA here
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): COD6 BETTER NOT SUCK lol
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): DOOD IM SO PSHYCHED TO BE HERE....
[H]LiL-R (u72576): this shall be interesting
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): NL represent
Col.Blake (hydte): yeah i think it did
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): *appropriate time greeting* all
Edwin (magik8): goodnight everyone
Jay>> (amazingjay): gg
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): yea...but lets get on topic ^^
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): Ladies ladies! please. lets treat this properly
[H]LiL-R (u72576): banned thats alittle harch
TheLittleB3ast19 (thelittleb3ast19): i agree
[S2k]Aphelion (angelicgirl): I'm not from the USA :) I reside in the Netherlands. It's currently Midnight
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): im in canada
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): hey everyone :P
*baS.ix?! (basixxx): Midnight at my place to
Jay>> (amazingjay): idd it is midnight in uk
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): AHHH Netherlands... sounds like Middle Earth.
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): O.o
[H]LiL-R (u72576): ok lets start the debate
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): haters... :p
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): its 11 o clock in UK
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): hey buys
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): didn't know that, sorry.
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): hey
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): its only 7
[H]LiL-R (u72576): i thing cod 6 will be future warfare
mstrskullbustr: 7
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): well we debate whats said in main one here
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): so..we must waight
mstrskullbustr: new
Col.Blake (hydte): im hoping for a nother modern
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): not a big fan of the future
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): yeah
<[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox) has silenced this room>
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): Hey Everybody. I silenced you for a second
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): I just wanted to warn you that we are watching this debate. I know COD is an AWESOME topic
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): But if you spam we WILL mute you
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): And if we have to mute you twice, you'll be banned
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): So no Spamming!
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): Have fun!
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): Argue
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): No death threats. ^^
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): I'm unsilencing the room now. Have fun!
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[TFO]Ranger Chad (rangerchad): something definetly origional would be nice and entertaining
Jay>> (amazingjay): COD 4 FTW
|Ks|Basher (cod3mast): lol
Weasel (nweasel): Quick question, Chatteox, are we using this debate room or the first one? :/
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): Rofl. Nice one, Chatteox.
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): SPAM ! just kdding :P
* =WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0) takes off underwear.
[H]LiL-R (u72576): k lol death threats lol
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): we just got owned
Col.Blake (hydte): lol
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): lol
[Spec]Welshman (welshman666): yoyoyyo
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): thankx
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): lol
Hawk (thefev): Give CoD back to IW, not Treyarch
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): yeah
M.A.D. [///_-] (mdeadline): yeah
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): yeah
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): no death threats? how about to ourselves :D
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): Agreed
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): with ya on that one
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): i agree
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): great game
Col.Blake (hydte): yeah i kinda liked IW
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): the both did a gd job
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): IW is way better
Master Kim (n00bie51): IW is better.
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): yes i agree infinity ward was the best
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): nope
sic`m1lkman (whiskeytits): IW ftw
-A§K-Adam-A§K- (adam0mikulewicz0): definately
Col.Blake (hydte): treyarch was a disapointment
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): CoD Vietnam! hahahaha
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): cod5 was better tho coz its 1 year newer
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): treyarch sucked with cod 5
Hawk (thefev): Treyarch disappointed everyone I know who played WaW
[H]LiL-R (u72576): i think its better to have future warfare
N!GhT© (nightstalker3400): Agreed that the CoD franchise should go back to IW
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): who is for a COD MMO
Jay>> (amazingjay): infinty ward made the best call of duty
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): treyarch is only good for consoles
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): IW ftw
[Spec]Welshman (welshman666): vietnam wud be class
Jay>> (amazingjay): call of duty 5 isnt good
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): cod 5 isnt any fun on singkle
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): cod mmo worst idea evah :P
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): Infinity Ward is the best choice
[Spec]Welshman (welshman666): i think Cod4 with L*5a2 is all we need:P
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): vietnam wuld be ok
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): the COD5 single player sucked
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): i would of bought cod 5 is it was made by IW but it wasn't, it was made by some random company
[Spec]Welshman (welshman666): *l85
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): yep
sic`m1lkman (whiskeytits): why make another WWII title, it was doomed to fail after that decision
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): but its the middle east that we want
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): cod5 is a game that uses almost all dod4 phisics and everythign else it just uses new models and items ..
Hawk (thefev): The campaign was WAYYY too short
Icelandic_Kiddi© (kiddi1000): ya, i would like a vitnam one
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): maybe a weapons pack or two
[lol]2ndLt.Battybat(CC) (battybat): zombie is good
mstrskullbustr: cod4 was the best in my opion
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): modern war is good
[H]LiL-R (u72576): cod 5 was exiting but i was bummed that it was ww11
[H]LiL-R (u72576): wwll
mstrskullbustr: so was i
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): ww 1 would be good too
[TFO]Ranger Chad (rangerchad): has CoD ever done anything other than soemthing modern or ww2? I believe a new war should be tested out
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): CoD vs MK ?
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): yeah zombie mode was fun at cod 5
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): haha
Jay>> (amazingjay): i spose making a future call of duty would be cool but taht would be copying battlefield alot
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): there is way bettrer weapons than whats on here now
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): yea world war is old.
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): they shuld make a ww1 lol
Fodder (fodder29): modern warfare destoryed the call franchise
{CRU}Aleezy (aleezy): cod 4 was good bugs were fixed on time not like treyarch
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): yea ww1...
*baS.ix?! (basixxx): so if i may start the threa my opinion is that cod 6 should have not so complex maps, the bast maps for multiplayer are the simplest. Harbor was the mast most played in UO, Toujane was the most played in Call of duty 2. Both of them war fast playing maps, no camps, just skill.
GamerOfFreedom (heromilkshake): i didnt get into the campaing i didnt feel lige i was in WW2
ltdmerchant: how about starting at WW2 then go to Vietnam Then to Current times then to the future and have iit all played as a family as in your Great Grandfather in WW2,Grandfather in Vietnam, Father in Current war and you are entering a future war
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): yea would be good to see a take on ww1
[H]LiL-R (u72576): i meant ww 2
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): I think cod2 was the best of the series... cause it was very balanced right away.
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): Just end the COD series. I think they should only open it up if there's World War 3... If there was a COD MMO that would be great for PC publicity, and I'd definetly get it. I feel as if it just needs to stop for a bit. The original COD's were much better than some of the new ones after Big Red.........
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): vietnam would be interesting rather than to continue with a WWII. what else could they do for WWII?
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): modwar is my fav, only good thing in WaW was nazi zombies
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): a WW1 would be cool but it is a dream
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): Call Of Duty VS Mortal Kombat ! :P
mstrskullbustr: the maps should be like cod4 was
BEHEMOTH74 (behemoth74): when will they tackel futuer war with cod?
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): bigger maps
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): I AGREE WITH CLONE
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): world war 3 is modern warfare...
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): poop brteaks
[H]LiL-R (u72576): heck no dont end it its my favorite series of games
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): to be fair, treyarch didnt do such a bad job for the call of duty series. cod3 was a disappointment not only because it took a step back from the previous cod games, but the multi format approach was a mess. cod: waw for me isnt a step forward, but merely a step sidewards as opposed to cod4
CheeseCookie (timbob17): I wonder if they will add something like Zombies again since that was the one good thing about COD5
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): its probbaly gana be like startign in cod:mw 2
Jay>> (amazingjay): aww man too many people talking
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): Cod 6 is gona be like cod 4 part 2
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): who can type that fast
Hawk (thefev): Maybe it's just me, but I reckon that you need to have longer campaogns for CoD series like they did with CoD4
ANB ='.'= Ħaωĸεÿε (hyugaleader): cod4 is cooler than cod5
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): I think we've had enough WWII, but how about modern warfare multiplayer with actual terror tactics, like hostage situations?
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): i agree
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): MAIN FLOOR IS OPENING UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): i prefer CoD2 to any other CoD game
[H]LiL-R (u72576): cod 6 should future warfare
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): codmw2 is gonna be cod4 with bettter graphics and a few changes in guns
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): cod2 is garbage
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): um
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): yep cod2 > rest :)
[H]LiL-R (u72576): let atleast try it
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): you know
Master Kim (n00bie51): I LOVE YOU DAN HSU
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): its called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 no more 6 and 7 stop usign the term lol
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): iw is the best
ANB ='.'= Ħaωĸεÿε (hyugaleader): id like to see infinitary ward make cod6 to ftw
|Ks|Basher (cod3mast): i like cod2
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): im playing cod 4 right now
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): but teyrach it good too
|Ks|Basher (cod3mast): just the bashing part
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): I liked cod2 most too
mstrskullbustr: cod 6 is coming out later this year
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): yeah classics never get bad
N!GhT© (nightstalker3400): I think that Infinity Ward has a better approach to start with that is why Treyarch is also doomed to be lowered each time... The twitter Infinity Ward set up to take the opinions of players on new features is already a good thing that should be considered.
× OMGitsBOBFETUS × (omgitsbobfetus): Remake CoD2 original for Next Gen ! with killzone graphics !
SLow // Luckyy (supern0va321): cod2 <3
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): lets hope also MW 2 will ahve more DLC maps
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): I would love to see a newer reworked version of cod2
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): frankly I'm just afraid my guns are gonna start making "pew pew" sounds, and that scares
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): im happy with codwaw.....they just screwed up on the competitve aspects of the game
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): its not cod 6 thats comming out htis year, its cod 4 part 2
Jay>> (amazingjay): is infinity ward making COD 6?
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): cod 6 is gona come out this fall
Fodder (fodder29): remake uo, update the graphics alll good
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): GUYS, pay attention to the Main Floor now !!!! They'll be announcing stuff !!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): yes
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): fodder 100% agree
[H]LiL-R (u72576): trenchyarch s good but i like infinitywar the best
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): yes... and its not 6.... its modenr warfare 2
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): ok they havent started yet
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): thats what i was hoping for cod5
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): just introducing themselves
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): Treyarch definitely stepped up the graphics, plus they introduced cooking a grenade to COD.
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): this was Treyarch first real competitive game release.....kinda expected them to mess up
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): they should add way more guns and be able to mod them like nobaodies business
M.A.D. [///_-] (mdeadline): true
Fodder (fodder29): cooking a grenade was in uo
[H]LiL-R (u72576): yea i love that pary
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): cook was in cod4 also and that was IW?
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): cod4 had cooking nades...
ANB ='.'= Ħaωĸεÿε (hyugaleader): ya but ttreyarch made the grpahics too high end
[H]LiL-R (u72576): t
:N|R: Quentin (northwood21): Where is the questions window?
TheLittleB3ast19 (thelittleb3ast19): i think they should maybe do a futuristic CoD
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): cheaper graphics cards slow the game down
Jay>> (amazingjay): console gamers for trayarch ...... pc gamers for infinity ward
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): cooking was in other fps;es befor call of duty so they treyarch never thign of their new ideas
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): treyarch < IW
Hawk (thefev): The flamethrower was a disappointment
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): questions will be on later
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): it seemed for graphics, IW worked quite well on smaller comps
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): except zombie thing
mstrskullbustr: listen to the main floor
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): shhh... lets see what the main floor question is
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): ITS STARTING
[H]LiL-R (u72576): call of duty is defenitly better than diablo 2
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): flames was gd
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): future game would be hard to do keeping the realism of cod
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): i like pie
fleshcutter (thefraggenator): if it was any better itd b noobish
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): yea main pannel
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): i wanted to ask the first question
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): whats the question?
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): What if they added a rock-paper-scissors functionality to melee in multiplayer for future COD games?
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): i think graphics are too much of a focus point today, they should balance graphics and gameplay and length, games are too short and easy now
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): dont see any main floor :(
=M4G=ShadowPlay (shadowplaykf): COD4 is well better that COD5
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): we will be debating here the questions
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): not spamming
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): no
¿4Ñ«--Sdv[K]³ (sedvick36): looks like sum ppl cant type and listen :/
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): :what do you think the next cod will be?
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): spamming is in the other room
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(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): this going to be one longgg transcript
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): :P
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): FIRST QUESTION: [16:06] Bitmob Shoe (egmshoe): In the old days, it used to be about Medal of Honor. Now, it's all COD. What is it about the Call of Duty series helped it topple MOH as king of the WW2 shooters?
TheLittleB3ast19 (thelittleb3ast19): fo were debating here then there is too many people
RMNT/Mr.Pimms (mrpimms): am i in the right room
[H]LiL-R (u72576): how do i go back yo the main floor
SLow // Luckyy (supern0va321): I think MOH was good but I never played it multiplayer wise
mstrskullbustr: it was orginal and it help pass the fps out
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): I'm not spamming, I'm suggesting features.
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): 1st question is a doozie, more general appeal, smoother gameplay, and sleek design
[H]LiL-R (u72576): cool thanks man
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): True on the no snipertown lvl :/
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): think the first moh was really good...but after that it started to go downhill
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): snipertown sucked
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): MOH was decent but I liked the controls and reactions of the COD gameplay personally
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): MOH seemed to get stale, it's still a classic, but COD pushed graphics and gameplay to a new hight
Icelandic_Kiddi© (kiddi1000): dident coh get made by moh?
TheLittleB3ast19 (thelittleb3ast19): i did erally enjoy MoH but i needed change and thats where CoD came in
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): MOH was funn
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): MOH was great beacuse vehicles were a key point but they were never OP and could be taken out, it meant not everyone wanted to be a sniper
mstrskullbustr: it had heroes and death and not meaningless deaths
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): I think COD made it more realistic, because we didnt' see a "hero" like Powell - heck, Powell and Blazkovic from RTCW could win the war by themselves
Chandonâ„¢ / ZLETJAAA (defnurd): epic
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): moh was a very good game to start but it fell short on gameplay and ruined it for me
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): question:what do you think the next cod will be?
Jay>> (amazingjay): MOH was all WW2
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): MOH was fail. The graphics were terrible !!!!!!
[H]LiL-R (u72576): gtg its storming bye
BEHEMOTH74 (behemoth74): what is moh and how does it concern cod at all?
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): GRAPHICS ARENT EVERYTHING!
uskhank: I liked Rising Sun
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): MOH wasnt so realistic as call of duty
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): why does nobody realise this.
Icelandic_Kiddi© (kiddi1000): the next cod is moder warfaire, its allready announced...
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): PRESENTATION = GRAPHICS = MOH WAS GAY.
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): Lol cloned
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): Your right, COD was more realistic
uskhank: COD is better
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): It as !
Hawk (thefev): They had their good times...
mstrskullbustr: cod wins
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): the game atmosphere is the best thing i like in COD
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): it was*
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): moh airborne was SUCH a dissapointment....could have been a descent game
[S2k]Aphelion (angelicgirl): Fluency, Call of Duty's gameplay was much smoother than the first Medal of Honor, which could be experienced as an evolving in the shooter genre.
Col.Blake (hydte): yeah i could have
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): COD just feels like a war, in MOH u felt like rambo
N!GhT© (nightstalker3400): Medal of Honor had it's strenght but the Call of Duty serie brought out new perspective like said in the main room, but the thing is, Medal of Honor had cons in the last games it brought out, like for exemple, it took 2 clips of ammo to kill a single german which kept pissing me off... hence why CoD United alliance was a great new perspective...
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): people seem to focus too much on how a game looks today, it should be how it plays as well which is where developers fall short, they make a game look good but ruin their rep by making it too short, too easy etc
mstrskullbustr: moh had a storyline but it didnt grab you like cod did
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): do you think there will be another moh?
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): It's too much about the graphics lately , that's why I like my CS 1.5 ^^ pure gameplay
Gene-X- (genexus): better mouse functionality the feel of the game was alot more realistic but with speed and accuracy
:N|R: Quentin (northwood21): QUESTION FOR THE PANEL: With the excellent example of Quake 1 and its modding community, having 3rd party tools such as "worldcraft 1.3", do you percieve that the survival of the CoD series as being limited in tools as successful as the Quake 1 Modding community?
GamerOfFreedom (heromilkshake): it was not made by 2015
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): do you think there will be another moh?
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): MOH never cought my attention because it never really starred any of the main battles except for Pearl Harbor...
-|EF|-Pvt.Jjsniper=[W|F]= (jjsniper13): hopefully no more moh
Spank n Uranus (anoland): im thinking COD will surely do what BF did, one set in the future in a sci-fi setting, would definitely look forward to it, theyve covered ww2, modern day
fx1000 (mediamob): well i think that MOH didnt really advance much on the graphic as COD did they tried with airborne but that wasnt as good as COD
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): Personall I think the MOH had design flaws which didnt particularly stand out until the COD boys ruffled them up a bit
¿4Ñ«--Sdv[K]³ (sedvick36): ironsight do own...
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): yah...heard that the next moh wasnt gonna be ww2 tho
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): graphics aren't everything. Without a balance of gameplay and graphics, a game usually is painful.
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): I hope to god there's no more MOH...
HOF|GenHenry* #_0 (h4hagen): MOH was great for what it did, but Call of Duty really did that and took it way further
uskhank: yeah Pearl Harbor
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): what about D-Day in Normandy
mstrskullbustr: moh was a fine back up for cod but cod was better
CheeseCookie (timbob17): MOH had a great idea, but never followed through on the other hand COD took their games as far as possible at the time
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): storeymode of cod's are always tooooooo short. i think the games are mainly based around multiplayer. but with cod 5 the aspect of co-op turned things up a bit
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): the 1st MOH's for psx just seemed terrible excpecialy those levels where there wa sjust lines.
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): True
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): MOH wasnt involved in game atmosphere
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): COD just had a better flow of all the ways things were done... MOH failed to accomplish everything that COD brought to the old WW's.
uskhank: MOH is ok but, I think it should feature some other things
HOF|GenHenry* #_0 (h4hagen): IMO Call of Duty is a multiplayer game that happens to have a great single player.
*baS.ix?! (basixxx): my pinion to MOH is it was good till it lasted, since cod it went down, untill call of duty 4 tham people started returning to MOH
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): the producers mostly wanted a game with a perfect story
Col.Blake (hydte): airborne could have been really good
mstrskullbustr: cod has better mp than moh did because of the level desighns and how they reprsented themn
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): The single player for MOH didnt grab me as much like COD did
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): it has great singleplayer
>>ACTF-Arrow> (roman3637): never tried it.
Col.Blake (hydte): i liked the idea it just
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): BUT it was too short
Jay>> (amazingjay): cant read it
Edwin (magik8): MOHAA was a good game, but after 2015 stopped and they founded infinity ward CoD was taken over the crown. the MOH serie was since EA toke it over never be the same anymore, while CoD just followed the path of MOHAA
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): MOH was fun but I felt like we were pulled to much to the world war history... COD just had it few movies and information and you had to do same objectives as back then, but COD is just much more about the fun of playing
SergentSpoon (sergentspoon): CoD had far more intense missions, better designed levels, a Russian campaign (which really got me interested in that particular front) and it generally felt like you were working with a squad.
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): Bitmob Shoe, not at all.
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): and a friendship bond within the other characters in the game
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): airborne concept was good....the campaign was ehh so so...each lvl was worse than the lvl before
¿4Ñ«--Sdv[K]³ (sedvick36): i have to agree, i originally played MOH but after Call of Duty hit the shelves i was hooked, nothing like it
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): COD's always tended to have the better stories and play MOH just falls too short and doesn't really follow much of a plit
SLow // Luckyy (supern0va321): I think MOH was a great single player never heard anything about its multiplayer or being good but the COD addtion has short single player but amazing MP.
->PK<- elitehunter (cpthunter01): *plot
CheeseCookie (timbob17): This could also be that COD was new and people were getting tired of the same old same old from MOH
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): cod was realastic and it made me feel like im in the battlefield
[S2k]Aphelion (angelicgirl): We shouldn't forget that Medal of Honor lay down the foundation for which later became Call of Duty. Inspired by the realistic aspects of this shooter, and patching the flaws of MoH, Call of Duty could really thrive in such a day and age.
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): in MOOH u worked alone a lot
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): MOH*
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): The last COD was really short, but I loved the story, the graphics, and the weapons.
Col.Blake (hydte): the first medal of honors were really fun
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): NEXT QUESTION: [16:10] Bitmob Shoe (egmshoe): Do you guys attribute a lot of this (COD's success) to former MOH developers moving over to work on COD?
fx1000 (mediamob): so what was the latest MOH game to come out then?
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): I think partially, because after all IW WAS MADE UP OF 2015, so they had the experience and built on it.
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): Yeha, I didn't like being alone in MOH
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): first time I had COD2 in my hands at home, played about 50hours non-stop till my mom send me to bed >.<
Edwin (magik8): hmm, the multiplayer in the first MOH worked good
mstrskullbustr: cod had vecles which they did a very good job on how the controls worked and how they were desighned around the level
uskhank: Yeah I wish it was a little more coop
Icelandic_Kiddi© (kiddi1000): i think it was a psp tiltle, like moh heros
Hawk (thefev): Well, in campaign for CoD, your teammates don't really halp you much.
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): wait arnt some of the orginal moh dev team found IW?
Edwin (magik8): never tried the other titles
HOF|GenHenry* #_0 (h4hagen): Question for the main floor: Is Competitive call of duty 4 really dead/ dyeing? If so, what will it take for Call of Duty 4: 2 to bring back call of duty as a competitive staple?
Hooshang > bikar (hooshimasterchief): what do you think of the next cod ?
Piccolo94 (mama13): the cod5 becomes boring very fast, cod4 and 2 are the best i think for now
kilodude (kilodude): MOH and COD are pretty different, one is all ww2, the other expanded, why are we comparing them
Edwin (magik8): indeed, stark
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): MOH deffinitely laid the groundwork for COD i don't think anyone could disagree
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): <<NOTE>> Please don't type in all caps. :)
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): call of duty every year will fall flat on its face
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): Cod2 and COD4 the best, I agree on that
N!GhT© (nightstalker3400): Yes, it definatly is part of the success, MOH really is the "pioneer" on immersive FPS games, CoD just managed to get it further at the time by going into WWII and now today into Modern Warfare...
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): The New World at War was terrible.... I rented it and it was nothing like the game before it. I hated it and they had changed a lot of stuff.
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): I could agree on that, MOH was like COD-Mini
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): yes,COD is like a different universe
*baS.ix?! (basixxx): I would like to se some MOH developers on the new COD they would put tha game back to what it once was. Simply the best online FPS game
Edwin (magik8): 2015, the team behind MOHAA, became Infinity Ward
[soe]_-Fu-_ (faustsoe): extreem modernwarefare with updated guns to now
uskhank: I think COD4 sucks with SOME of its missions
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): I agree. The inclusion of vehicles was an excellent addition to multiplayer.
*OSS*Phoenix.:Pyro:. (phoenixtl): If COD can continue to find a base for their game, it will go far in my opinion.
CheeseCookie (timbob17): COD can release one every month if they wanted to as long as they keep it new and refreshed
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): until cod 4,COD was like an improved version of MOH
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): cod4 sp was wayy to short
-=SF=-Barciur (barciur): The problem is now we have two different developers making supposedly one game, however it isn't one game.. it looks like just going for money
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): the formula will wean, the fans will get older and seek innovation, rather than the same weathered formula
Jay>> (amazingjay): Cpt. Mcmillan owns
Col.Blake (hydte): does EA own EA sports?
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): I kinda had a feeling already that World at war would suck, so I never bought it. That's why I went to play it few times at a friend, didn't took me long to go back home for my COD4
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): storeymode = rushed
multiplayer = more time spent on it. better gameplay. MORE fun
fx1000 (mediamob): well i think that one a year is abit too much, something like bringing out expantions out would be easier
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): but COD4 made the things different
SLow // Luckyy (supern0va321): Yes COD has gone to far they have been making almost a new game every year.
I wish they would have left it at cod2 and cod4 but now were getting Cod4II and CodWOW
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): Yeh, Ea owns EA sports
Edwin (magik8): it does, col.blake
Fodder (fodder29): ha improvements in the games
uskhank: HOW LONG DOES THIS MEETING LAST???
[soe]_-Fu-_ (faustsoe): the draw back to vehiicles is that we need a sufficiant way to destroy them
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): The New World at War was terrible.... I rented it and it was nothing like the game before it. I hated it and they had changed a lot of stuff.
Fodder (fodder29): 7 patches for 4
Col.Blake (hydte): thx lol i was just askin
Fodder (fodder29): that's in improvement?
mstrskullbustr: yes it is true they should wait at least 2 years before they anotherone so the prevouse game can show them the errors they made and fix them on the next gam
вσαÑ∂ (hetpietje): IT LASTS 1 HOUR >.<
[soe]_-Fu-_ (faustsoe): there are tankd in waw but no mines
(IAF)Matt (mattbrackman): caps lock ftl
uskhank: kk ty
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): Just end the COD series. I think they should only open it up if there's World War 3... If there was a COD MMO that would be great for PC publicity, and I'd definetly get it. I feel as if it just needs to stop for a bit. The original COD's were much better than some of the new ones after Big Red.........
shadowhawk4735 (shadowhawk4735): But, I don't believe there was much vehicle functionality for multi- in COD4.
:N|R: Quentin (northwood21): uskhank: 1 hour... it says it in your email.
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): no caps dude
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): cod2 and cod4 were EXTREMELY differnet.....cod4 could have been a different franchise
HOF|GenHenry* #_0 (h4hagen): Question for the main floor: Is Competitive call of duty 4 really dead/ dyeing? If so, what will it take for Call of Duty 4: 2 to bring back call of duty as a competitive staple?
||D2R||#div/0! (jakolantern): releasing a game every year if nothing else kind of taxes clans, when some members move on to the next one, it makes league play kinda tough with teams always changing
uskhank: sorry I forgot
tuck225: Low turnover at IW is all great but at what price when you turn out a new game each year
[Xfire] Chatteox (chatteox): NEXT QUESTION: [16:11] Bitmob Shoe (egmshoe): Is Call of Duty turnning into the next Madden? A new release each year...how long can they sustain this?
uskhank: only looked at it once
HOF|GenHenry* #_0 (h4hagen): cal is dead lol
kilodude (kilodude): call of duty 4 competition is dying, i havnt played it in months
[lol]2ndLt.Battybat(CC) (battybat): thats why cod 5 has not taken off re the main forum
Confirm4Crit (confirm4crit): Right, COD5 took a step back, the new one has to blow my mind, or I might not like it.
[TDOF]CoNsuRaL(JA) (obiwantr5): i agre
Hawk (thefev): Let's hope so
pYk.cherryghost (cherryghost): a 2 year gap should be maintained to alleviate the developers to aid them in search of new ideas
*baS.ix?! (basixxx): iagree
Starkk | RabidSqurl (rabbidsquirrel2): FF is stilll going....wat is it ff20?
mstrskullbustr: cod4 is still alive and kicking because of the mp
uskhank: I wonder what COD6 will look like!!!
×Ç4Øקèà Ñ ft. Çlôñè (cloned4life): CALL OF DUTY BIG RED WAS AMAZING. I really liked that game......
*iG* Nalestom (nalestom): Well, I don't truly care if they release one every year, all that really matters to me is the quality of the content that I buy
[soe]_-Fu-_ (faustsoe): cod4 comp is not dying if you want to see dieing look at the number of servers versus waw
[Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): Please do not use ALL CAPS
|Ks|Basher (cod3mast): I think cod3 made cod4 more popular
Tribex (tribex): I doubt they will be able to keep a game a year going on too much longer without running the game into the ground. We have seen many games attempt this strategy over the years, ie. tony hawk spiderman, and honestly people will just get sick of the series. Not only will boredom of the series arise from the consumer but pushing having a yearly goal of a new game really opens the game up to bugs and lack of quality content.
=WF= JimReaper (0saint0jimmy0): cod 6 will be cod 4 with some pink letters
BEHEMOTH74 (behemoth74): 2 years min
[S2k]Aphelion (angelicgirl): They won't sustain that for very long, we've seen what happened to series such as Need for Speed, whic