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[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Welcome to Gamers'
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Please join me in welcoming our special
guests to Xfire's
Debate on Gamers'
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Matt Buchanan - Gizmodo
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Joe Blancato - The Escapist
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Robert Krakoff - Razer
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Jean Aw - NOTCOT
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Sean Gailey - J!NX
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Newegg.com and Michael Zenke have been unable
to join us, but send their best wishes.
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: So, without further
ado, for each guest: Starting with Matt, could you introduce yourself, and let
us know what is at the top of your wish list this holiday season?
matt [gizmodo]: Well, my rig's kind of dated, so it's tossup
between a new gaming PC and a MacBook Pro.
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: OK, Joe, how about you?
matt [gizmodo]: BTW guys, I described my ultimate gaming PC
here: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/all-giz-wants/all-giz-wants-a-gaming-pc-with-the-soul-of-a-console-334928.php
Joe: Hey folks. I'm Joe Blancato, from The Escapist. I edit stuff and
occasionally write stuff. At the top of my wishlist right now is either an
iPhone or an Xbox 360, but I can't decide whether to scratch my gaming itch or
my smug hipster itch first.
Sean [J!NX]: i have found it to be effect to use both
hands for scratching those itches
matt [gizmodo]: You should scratch your smug hipster itch
with a 3G iPhone next year, get a 360 this year =)
Sean [J!NX]: effective*
Joe: You words make sense, Matt, but the call of the hipster is a siren's song
of early adoption.
matt [gizmodo]: Well if you missed the $600 pricetag you've
already lost.
Sean [J!NX]: I have found that my iPhone works best when
I'm humping a cell tower and thats about it
[NOTCOT] Jean: is an iphone even a hipster toy anymore? doesn't everyone have one?
Joe: blasphemy. Communicate Different.
Sean [J!NX]: I think they need to make the iPhone more
expensive again, I definately don't feel nearly as smug anymore
[NOTCOT] Jean: and they should only release a handful
Sean [J!NX]: Or maybe a smug booster pack where you get an
add-on that starts your money on fire
[NOTCOT] Jean: very very slowly
Joe: haha, sean. if it's less
than a car payment, it's just not worth owning.
matt [gizmodo]: Like the Wii, but with a PS3 pricepoint
matt [gizmodo]: It should ignite fanboy fervor on all fronts
[NOTCOT] Jean: watch that will be the hot thing of 2008 now
[NOTCOT] Jean: oh i'm supposed to introduce myself
apparently...
[NOTCOT] Jean: hi! i'm jean ~ i'm a design/gadget junkie
who's gone through every console at one time or another, but really am more of
a watcher than a gamer ~ i run NOTCOT
[NOTCOT] Jean: and as for whats on my list ~ after making gift guides all
month long, and being an impulse shopper.... nothing has been on the top of my
list, but i did get this sweet industrial vinyl cutter for my bday two weeks
ago ~ which pretty much is the best present i never expected
[NOTCOT] Jean: NEXT!
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Thanks Jean, Sean?
Sean [J!NX]: Hey everyone, I'm Sean and am the founder and
creative director over at J!NX Clothing (JINX.com). We keep gamers and geeks from being naked on a daily basis, although being naked is
perfectly acceptible. Really, I'm not
being prejudice, I mean, I have a lot of naked
friends. </backpeddle>
Sean [J!NX]: I have something at the top of my list that I
can't justify asking for
Sean [J!NX]: http://starwars.lego.com/en-us/products/exclusive/10178.aspx
Sean [J!NX]: Its $130 of legos
[NOTCOT] Jean: and worth every penny?
Sean [J!NX]: which is exactly $100 over my theoritcal lego
spending allowance
[NOTCOT] Jean: besides gifts are fun when they are things
you wouldn't buy yourself
Joe: I was the lego-smashing kid growing up
Sean [J!NX]: But hey, its out there now, and there are
lots of people reading this, so PST for my address
matt [gizmodo]: Oh, that whole intro deal--I'm matt, a
contributing editor at Gizmodo, one of the big gadget blogs--I write about
pretty much anything shiny or geeky.
Joe: I'd like to think I haven't grown out of that mindset.
[NOTCOT] Jean: they can all pitch in and buy you a few
pieces each
Sean [J!NX]: haha
Sean [J!NX]: Jean, you have something brilliant there
[NOTCOT] Jean: haha ~ user generated lego building?
[NOTCOT] Jean: one block at a time?
Joe: oh god, that's all lego needs, open-source culture
[Slashdot] Michael: Hello all; I seem to have problems
understanding what day things are happening.
Sean [J!NX]: Keep the vulnerabilities out, that way I
can't get my email hacked through my motorized At At
Sean [J!NX]: I accept the challenge BFM_Knight
[NOTCOT] Jean: i missed the challenge
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Sean, what challenge?
Sean [J!NX]: Oh sorry, was in debate room, it was a lego
building challenge
[NOTCOT] Jean: was it the 360 of legos?
[NOTCOT] Jean: hey sean ~ do you guys
have any lego tees?
[Slashdot] Michael: Okay folks, looks like we're going to get
started.
[Slashdot] Michael: My intense apologies again for my tardiness.
My name is Michael Zenke.
[Slashdot] Michael: And I'm the games editor for Slashdot.org.
[Slashdot] Michael: We have some fairly excellent people here
today.
[Slashdot] Michael: And we'll go around and have them do an introduction.
[Slashdot] Michael: Sean, do you want to start?
[Slashdot] Michael: or ... we already did that.
Sean [J!NX]: Yeah, I bored them with my description
already
[Slashdot] Michael: hah.
Sean [J!NX]: :)
[NOTCOT] Jean: some but not all of us did i think
[Slashdot] Michael: Okay, let's jump right into a question:
[Slashdot] Michael: What do you folks see
as the signature change this year to gamer-gifts?
[Slashdot] Michael: You've already said what your top of the list
was ...
matt [gizmodo]: I think the signature change is the
definition of a gamer, really
[Slashdot] Michael: what was it about this year that was
different from 2006?
[Slashdot] Michael: Howso, matt?
Sean [J!NX]: I have been buying everyone a PacMan tie
since the 80s so not much has changed here
matt [gizmodo]: The DS and Wii have really broken open just
who is a gamer really
[NOTCOT] Jean: wii definitely seems to have opened things up
to toddlers and grandmas.... as gamers even more?
matt [gizmodo]: Casual gaming is the big buzzword, but I mean
it has some pull to it beyond PR hype--look at lines for the Wii, a year after
launch
matt [gizmodo]: And the DS sold 600k units Black Friday week.
matt [gizmodo]: Everyone's getting one
[Slashdot] Michael: Right; lots of folks
see it as acceptable now. Do you folks think that will mean more people buying
Xbox Cards or Wii points for friends/family?
Sean [J!NX]: I wonder how many people get gaming devices
like the DS simply because they are a gamer and people want to buy them a game
related gift
[Slashdot] Michael: Will this tie into the downloadable content
thing everyone seems to be so big on?
matt [gizmodo]: I don't know if it'll tie into downloadable
content--the issue with that getting bigger is mostly on the company's side of
things, really
Joe: It's possible, Michael. I mean, as popular as gift cards are, it probably
won't take long for Nintendo to start selling Wii points next to Best Buy gift
cards.
matt [gizmodo]: They do already
Joe: Well I'll be damned.
Joe: I'm a genius on a three-week time delay.
matt [gizmodo]: Bought a friend 2000 Wii points at Target
last year
[Slashdot] Michael: hah
[NOTCOT] Jean: haha
Sean [J!NX]: lol
Joe: (three-year time delay) :(
[Slashdot] Michael: yeah, that's what I meant. And like say ...
Jinx's stuff seems to be showing up in more mainstream places.
Sean [J!NX]: We even got J!NX cards at circuit city
[NOTCOT] Jean: nice
Sean [J!NX]: What is the world coming to!?
[Slashdot] Michael: Jean, do you think that this popularization
of gaming will lead to folks taking design of nerd toys more seriously?
[NOTCOT] Jean: hopefully they at least design them to look a
bit better
[Slashdot] Michael: The change from the DS phat to DS lite was a
big deal for some folks ..
[NOTCOT] Jean: i think the shift of what is considered
gaming and what a controller looks like is huge
[NOTCOT] Jean: the idea of more party games and drunken
multiplyering certainly changes things a bit
[Slashdot] Michael: hah.
Joe: The Wii went a long way in that.
matt [gizmodo]: Drunken halo has long been a frat boy
tradition though
[NOTCOT] Jean: guitar hero and rock band
Joe: It's Gen Y charades
Sean [J!NX]: I heard that Budwiezer sales doubled when the
Wii came out
matt [gizmodo]: Yeah GH and RB are huge in that way
[NOTCOT] Jean: i know ex bosses who got them and had rock
band parties ~ i think he bought an xbox just for that
[Slashdot] Michael: Right, but can you play Halo with your
grandmother? Or rather, would you want to?
[NOTCOT] Jean: its more ~ can your grandmother play halo?
matt [gizmodo]: Would you play anything w/ your grandma
drunk?
Sean [J!NX]: lol
Joe: Me? Yes. Grandma talks some shit when she headshots me, though.
Sean [J!NX]: Matt, is grandma drunk too?
[Slashdot] Michael: oh dear ... going in bad directions. :)
matt [gizmodo]: I don't know she probably has a pretty solid
liver
[NOTCOT] Jean: drunken grandma halo parties
[NOTCOT] Jean: hmmm is that a new one at the retirement
homes?
[Slashdot] Michael: To redirect: what do you think that this
means for giving gifts *next* year?
Joe: Straying back to the train of thought, a number of old folks' homes are
buying Wiis.
matt [gizmodo]: You might be able to find a Wii next, maybe.
Well...
[Slashdot] Michael: Are we going to be
seeing gaming continue this trend of social acceptance, or is that 'Wii bubble'
everyone talks about finally going to deflate?
Joe: I think next year is a real test for how "sticky" games are.
razerguy08: Wii fit for the old folks
[Slashdot] Michael: joe: exactly.
matt [gizmodo]: And how "faddy" the Wii is
matt [gizmodo]: But I think game culture going mainstream is
more than just the Wii
matt [gizmodo]: Look at WoW on
matt [gizmodo]: or GH
Joe: Well, that begs another question, Matt.
[NOTCOT] Jean: if the wii is as hard to find next year as it
was this year and last.... people might totally freak out on them,no?
Joe: Are the people who play only WoW or only Guitar Hero/Rock Band into gaming
culture?
[NOTCOT] Jean: aren't they just asking for some backlash?
[Slashdot] Michael: That's a great point:
virtual worlds are getting much more socially acceptable. Do you think we're
going to see 'Webkinz-like' worlds for older folks? worlds
with some sort of physical stickiness?
matt [gizmodo]: Probably not--I think Facebook's the extent
of social networking for "older folks"
[Slashdot] Michael: jean: i'm not sure ... I think mario still has a lot of cachet.
razerguy08: worlds that might be based on some futuristic
social network?
Sean [J!NX]: Yeah, older people tend to fear electronics,
almost as if they possess voodoo powers
Sean [J!NX]: ALthough I recommend getting your
grandparents a Presto
Sean [J!NX]: lemme dig up link
[NOTCOT] Jean: dont think thats
wearing off yet?
[Slashdot] Michael: Well, not even social networking per say,
matt. Online spaces other than 'Second Life' where folks will
feel comfortable interacting online.
Sean [J!NX]: http://www.presto.com/
Sean [J!NX]: THat was tough...
Sean [J!NX]: Anyway, lets you send them pics and emails
and you can pretend like they care about the Interwebs
Joe: The problem with the "virtual world" thing is it tends to draw
people who aren't happy with the "physical world" as early adopters
[Slashdot] Michael: true, joe.
razerguy08: WoW XPS ... at $5k that's not targeted to
kids
matt [gizmodo]: I don't even play WoW and I want one of those
[Slashdot] Michael: hah. Welcome to the conversation, Robert!
razerguy08: lol
razerguy08: tech challenges
Sean [J!NX]: Woot, he cracked the code!
[NOTCOT] Jean: hah
razerguy08: i'm using a Dell
Joe: that XPS is a funny beast, though
Joe: I'm pretty sure WoW will run on a cell phone, it's so low-end happy.
Joe: Who ARE they
[NOTCOT] Jean: the idea of WoW on cellphones seems like bad
news...
[NOTCOT] Jean: i can only imaging people playing and driving
Sean [J!NX]: he
Sean [J!NX]: heh
Joe: I kinda like it, Jean. It gets raiders out of the house.
[Slashdot] Michael: hah
[Slashdot] Michael: Is there any chance we'll see WoW on console
next year?
razerguy08: speaking of gifts i can't afford have you
seen the $500 Millennium Falcon from Lego?
Sean [J!NX]: oh yeah
Sean [J!NX]: 5,000 peices
matt [gizmodo]: Yeah if they wanted to get on the
future-proof bandwagon, a Starcraft II XPS would've sold just as well
[Slashdot] Michael: razer: yikes. amazing.
[NOTCOT] Jean: between the texting, iming, youtube watching,
game playing while driving already.... i dunno,
carrying your virtual world everywhere with you in your real world?
Sean [J!NX]: and it comes with Harrison Ford, he hangs out
with you while you build it
Joe: Oh man. I'd pay $1,000 just to smash one
razerguy08: agreed
[NOTCOT] Jean: link to the lego hrrison ford?
matt [gizmodo]: Yeah Jesus from Giz is building one: http://gizmodo.com/335673/sorting-the-5195-pieces-of-the-millennium-falcon-gives-strange-pleasure-back-pain
[Slashdot] Michael: Okay. So were' going to go to questions from
the floor.
[Slashdot] Michael: Because I'm awesome and this is already
getting tight on time. :)
[Slashdot] Michael: We've already talked
about the tops of your lists : what was your Game of
the Year?
razerguy08: How bout Home Arcade System
http://www.chicago-gaming.com/alegends.php
You can upgrade with other game packs.
[Slashdot] Michael: This should be easy.
[NOTCOT] Jean: home arcade system ~ is that like the one
they put the keg in?
Joe: GOTY? Is the Orange Box cheating? Five games at $8 apiece with one of the
best games ever written bundled in.
[Slashdot] Michael: Mine is without a doubt Mass Effect. :)
[Slashdot] Michael: Not at all Joe.
matt [gizmodo]: I really, really love Mario Strikers Charged
razerguy08: CoD4 http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/ageconfirm.php
You love Call of Duty 4 and you are glad to
see that Infinity ward took the reins back on this series.
matt [gizmodo]: but I want to steal my friend's Mass Effect
pretty badly
Sean [J!NX]: Bioshocker possibly
Sean [J!NX]: Although orange box is really good
[Slashdot] Michael: sean: your shirt is not a game. :)
Sean [J!NX]: ha
matt [gizmodo]: Orange Box was also fantastic
razerguy08: agreed
Joe: It's been a great
year for games.
Sean [J!NX]: Yeah, it really has
[Slashdot] Michael: It's really hard to argue with the bang for
your buck that Valve gives you.
Joe: Best since 2005
[Slashdot] Michael: Any unsung heroes that got overlooked?
Sean [J!NX]: Ratchet and Clank was great
[NOTCOT] Jean: as a non gamer i must say the rabbids still
amuse me to no end
matt [gizmodo]: I hate that I can't play TF2 with my Xbox
Live friends though , since I prefer FPS on PC by a million to one
Sean [J!NX]: the newest (well, all of them)
[Slashdot] Michael: I think Drake's Fortune has really gotten
short shrift, unfortunately.
razerguy08: i came in a little late - has any1 discussed
Rockband for the 360 http://www.rockband.com/
One guy on durms, another on vocals, one on
bass, and one on lead guitar. It is pretty freaking sweet.
matt [gizmodo]: And the $25 Black Friday price Best Buy ran
was just too good
[Slashdot] Michael: I got my wife Raving rabbids 2 for christmas this year.
[NOTCOT] Jean: ha, how'd she like it?
Joe: I burn a candle for Out of the Park Baseball and all the other sports
management sims.
[Slashdot] Michael: Haven't given it to her yet, Jean, but we
played through the whole first game last year. :)
[Slashdot] Michael: Anyone else on sleeper hits?
[NOTCOT] Jean: ohhh ok right ~ xmas
is next week
matt [gizmodo]: She doesn't read gamer debates does she?
[Slashdot] Michael: I'm going to use the mind trick on her for
this one. :)
Sean [J!NX]: I thought of a good Worst Gift idea. You could buy someone Vanguard - Saga of
Heroes with 6 months of pre-paid game time so they feel guilty if they don't
play.
[NOTCOT] Jean: prob need to pick up one more surprise gift
for her now just in case ; )
[Slashdot] Michael: Okay, more questiosn coming in:
[Slashdot] Michael: (sean: hah)
[Slashdot] Michael: Is the PSP Slim really better then the regular
PSP, I have heard that it is made of cheaper material but can hook up to a TV
and can load games faster. What is your opinions on
this?
Joe: Back before I sold my unlocked original PSP, all I really wanted was TV-out
and better loading times.
razerguy08: i have to find a place for this gift ...
Poetictech Aura Work station http://www.poetictech.com/aura/index.html
Pretty sweet station.
Joe: So, uhh, as long as you've got good hands and don't play on concrete, it's
better.
matt [gizmodo]: Thin is in.
razerguy08: yes but fat is where its
at
[Slashdot] Michael: haha
[NOTCOT] Jean: hahaha
Joe: Yes. It's positively svelte, even if their commercials are almost as
annoying as the Old Navy ones from a few years back.
Sean [J!NX]: portables got back
[Slashdot] Michael: Random question: Do any
of you have a doodad or piece of swag that you find yourself using a lot that
you think would make a good gift?
[NOTCOT] Jean: are there any new must have psp games to make
it worth getting the
slim if you dont have one?
[Slashdot] Michael: Something wacky that would make a good
stocking stuffer, perhaps?
matt [gizmodo]: I like anything by Takara Tomy
[Slashdot] Michael: I'm kind of partial to the final fantasy
series, but buying them *again* ...
matt [gizmodo]: They have this exploding bank bomb that's
excellent
Joe: It's an old-school gadget, but if it's good enough for MacGuyver, it's good
enough for me.
matt [gizmodo]: Also, I really dig mimobots--they're on
NOTCOT's gift guide too
Joe: http://www.swissknifeshop.com/SwissTool_s/73.htm
Sean [J!NX]: http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TYV15019
[NOTCOT] Jean: i was about to say ~ i just got mimobots
today
[NOTCOT] Jean: they are pretty sweet
Joe: If you don't have something made by the Swiss Army, you're not prepared for
the zombie apocalypse. Consider yourself warned.
Sean [J!NX]: Monty Python talking keychain thingy, great
stuffer (link above)
[NOTCOT] Jean: http://www.notcot.com/archives/2007/12/the_rayd8_clan.php
[Slashdot] Michael: I can't even tell you how much fun these are:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/934c/
matt [gizmodo]: I have one of the Artist 2007 series, a
bloody gloomy bear
[Slashdot] Michael: it's not really a stocking gift, but having
helicopter wars are just hilarious.
matt [gizmodo]: Plus they have Halo and STar Wars ones
[NOTCOT] Jean: forget swiss army ~ go
for the new leatherman skeletool =)
razerguy08: for those of us who played games in the 70's
here's a oldie ... Home Arcade System
http://www.chicago-gaming.com/alegends.php
You can upgrade with other game packs
[NOTCOT] Jean: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000XU43IC/notcot-20
[Slashdot] Michael: Someone noted that I
ponied up what I'm buying for my wife: anyone else willing to cop to what you
as a nerd are buying your family members/SOs?
Sean [J!NX]: Woah, looks like the terminators left hand,
Jean
[NOTCOT] Jean: haha yea
[NOTCOT] Jean: but its light and has everything you need
[Slashdot] Michael: it looks like a death boomerang.
[NOTCOT] Jean: although i still carry their classic wave
everywhere
razerguy08: wifey gets a Wii Fit
[NOTCOT] Jean: are they out in the
Sean [J!NX]: I got my brother a SLacker Portable (love
slacker, its da best): http://www.slacker.com/products/portables/
matt [gizmodo]: Very subtle, lol
razerguy08: limited supplies but i'm connected
matt [gizmodo]: I was toying with buying my brother a flash
Zune since he just bought a MacBook
razerguy08: she also wants a Slanket
It is a blanket…with sleeves! It is awesome.
[Slashdot] Michael: my wife and I got some friends of ours the
entire run of buffy: http://tinyurl.com/38wnfs
Joe: i didn't grab the girl anything gamey - she's not of the gamer persuasion,
so i have to go slow
[NOTCOT] Jean: the slankets look far too comfy
[Slashdot] Michael: it's about $150, but amazon was having a sale
for only $70!
razerguy08: i keep it cold in the house
razerguy08: overclocking issues
[Slashdot] Michael: haha
[NOTCOT] Jean: i got the planet earth/blue planet dvd set for a few people ~ its the second best use of an HD
tv
[Slashdot] Michael: nice, jean. I actually got that for my mom.
[Slashdot] Michael: Hey, nice question from
the audience: Which do you think comes first when people buy gifts? Hype or necessity?
Sean [J!NX]: Oh, another great gift:
Sean [J!NX]: Subscription to Geek Magazine. I devour that thing. Its for people that
say "I like Wired, but I don't like the 8,000,000 advertisment
firehose-powered Enema that comes free with every issue."
matt [gizmodo]: Submit to the Conde Nast machine
[Slashdot] Michael: ouch.
razerguy08: exclusivity
matt [gizmodo]: When I buy gifts I like some of both
Joe: I don't think hype and necessity are mutually exclusive.
[NOTCOT] Jean: i dont think hype of necessity should be
highest priority.... it should be unexpected and fun/amusing
Joe: Isn't hype supposed to CREATE necessity?
razerguy08: i don't want to see me or my wife coming or
going ... gifts should be personal
[Slashdot] Michael: i agree, jean. my
favorite gifts to give people are the ones they've never heard of.
[NOTCOT] Jean: yea they should learn to need it
razerguy08: right
[NOTCOT] Jean: not have been desperately wanting it
before... thats what gift certificates are for anyhow
~ to buy the stuff they wanted
Joe: See, I'm a dirty materialist. My wishlistr is 200 doodads long. Just buy
from that and we'll both be happy.
[Slashdot] Michael: like my roomba. :D
[Slashdot] Michael: i wuold be a sad panda without that.
Sean [J!NX]: Like that ebay commercial, gifts should say
"I get you". I really do think
that, but I also almost puked as I typed it
[Slashdot] Michael: hahah
[NOTCOT] Jean: hahaha
razerguy08: do i want to turn my WoW avatar into a
statue? I think not
[Slashdot] Michael: It's about time to wrap up ... anyone have any last thoughts on
gifts this year?
[NOTCOT] Jean: that sounds like somthing more amusing to
give than get
[Slashdot] Michael: Besides the fact that the Wii and DS are
going to print money for Nintendo? :)
razerguy08: shameless plug ... i want a Razer Mako under
my tree =)
Sean [J!NX]: I do too actually
[Slashdot] Michael: the XFire admins are saying they're going to
conglomerate all these great links onto one page for folks who have been having
trouble following them. they'll be with the transcript
of the chat. Thanks, Xfire admins!
Sean [J!NX]: but also, JINX.com. That is all.
Joe: When in doubt, buy the gift you think will last longer.
[Slashdot] Michael: hah.
[Slashdot] Michael: And on that note ...
razerguy08: thanks X-Fire for the vine
[Slashdot] Michael: Thanks to you all for coming, and my
apologies again for tardiness.
[Slashdot] Michael: Nobody move, though ...
razerguy08: mine too
[NOTCOT] Jean: haha
Joe: [on time debators]
[NOTCOT] Jean: so what are the prizes these guys are getting ?
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Sure, so the prizes, we are giving away (in
no order):
[Slashdot] Michael: joe: *sad panda face*
[Slashdot] Michael: i totally lose for christmas.
Joe: Thanks to you, Michael, we're canceling Christmas
[Slashdot] Michael: oh crap. again?
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: from our man Robert "Razerguy",
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: the Razer DeathAdder
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: mouse
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: and Razer Tarantula keyboard
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: from Sean *J!NX*
Gailey:
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: 2 JINX Shirts!
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: and a $50 gift certificate
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: for J!NX
Joe: from Joe: World Peace
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Now, the winners for the Debate Club Prizes:
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: [TTHS]Lunarbunny
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: [A27]JSnipe:
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: W00tbeer1
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: ladyayeka
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: and last but not least: iamsa8
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: If you were listed, stay online and we will
contact you shortly! Thanks all and Happy Holidays from Xfire!
[Slashdot] Michael: have a good holiday all.
[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox: Thanks again to all our guests for their time
and insights!
Good job to users the Open Debate Room. Look out for invites and promotions in the
Two-Handed Sword Clan!
Thank you all for attending. For more Xfire
events, check out http://www.xfire.com/cms/xf_events/
Transcripts will be available soon at www.xfire.com/debate.
